# Harumph to the Czar of Casm! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 21, 2001, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069 "2001-09-21T19:19:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![warmgun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecccb3/32.png) [@warmgun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/warmgun)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/1 "2001-09-21T19:19:18Z")
This does not belong in the pit - it’s not _that_ big of a deal - but regarding closing my [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=88177)…too tacky??? I fully respect your position as mod to close (lock) at your discretion, and I did miss the thread that was started in July, so I’m not really debating the lock, as such…but _too tacky ?_ For your perusal: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=54448](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=54448) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=84448](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=84448) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85101](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85101) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=86039](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=86039) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=87669](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=87669) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85019](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85019) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85444](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85444) This doesn’t count the non-informational anal topics, etc. I submit any of these are more tacky (or at lest, as so ) as mine. Further the rules of the boared clearly state: > [@](#): > > **In My Humble Opinion** > “What’s your favorite …?” For frank exchanges of views on less-than-cosmic topics. This is also the place for polling. I’m sure there are _many_ new members who have joined in the last couple of months who might also have an opinion on this topic, so as for your assesment of my topic, and, hell, ok I’ll say it, for the lock, I say…“Harumph to you.” Of course that’s just **My Humble Opinion**! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![warmgun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecccb3/32.png) [@warmgun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/warmgun)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/2 "2001-09-21T19:27:21Z")
One more thing, I was led to believe by Lynn and Manny that, for bandwidth’s sake, generally it’s better to start a new topic than bump an old, long one. ---
**Author:** ![warmgun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecccb3/32.png) [@warmgun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/warmgun)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/3 "2001-09-21T20:18:37Z")
Now having just found out from About This Message Board that it’s possible, given the above examples and comments combined with the fact that I complied with the rules of this particular board and the wishes of an admin and fellow mod, I respectfully request that you consider unlocking [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=88177) thread. It’s not so much that I care so deeply about the topic (though I genuinely would like to hear new member comments), it’s more the principal at stake. I’m a longtime and considerate poster and I feel I should be given the same oppertunities to post “less than cosmic [and ‘taste’ questionable] topics” as other recent posters, including Sycorax, the the poster who opened the original thread on VPL’s (which was apparently not too “tacky” then), IMHO. No harm, no foul, huh? Thank you for time and consideration. ---
**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/4 "2001-09-21T20:33:09Z")
I don’t really care one way or the other, but could you ( **warm** ), in the future, include some idea of what the linked threads are about so that those of the more curious of us who happen to have slow connections this afternoon, can decide whether or not to give one of the cites a pass? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![shannybonanny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@shannybonanny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shannybonanny)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/5 "2001-09-21T21:07:41Z")
I’m confused…most of those cites don’t have anything to do with Czarcasm. However, they were good reading since I missed a bunch of them. Thanks! 🙂 I wouldn’t usually post to a thread after someone posted a link to the same thing, mainly because I’d probably just end up repeating someone in the original thread. As a newbie, I wouldn’t want to step on any toes. ---
**Author:** ![warmgun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecccb3/32.png) [@warmgun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/warmgun)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/6 "2001-09-21T21:35:32Z")
**thinksnow** , For your perusal: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=54448](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=54448) **After performing oral sex on a man, should you spit or swallow?** [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=84448](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=84448) **Ater you wipe, do you look at the toilet paper to check out your shit?** [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85101](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85101) **"I want to see Lisa Lopez naked"** [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=86039](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=86039) **Do our female Dopers like sex toys (vibrators)?** [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=87669](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=87669) **Someone considers Gary Condit lucky. IMHO _very_ bad taste** [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85019](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85019) **What makes the ideal woman? Very sexist** [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85444](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85444) \*\* Someone suggesting we should resume public executions\*\* **shannybonanny** , that those site didn’t have anything to do with Czarcasm _ **is** _ the point. He didn’t lock other “tacky” threads. Also, the fact that a lot of people miss threads is a good enough reason to re-hash them. Or if not, they just drop off of the radar quick enough. I’m sure there will be people who enjoy the VPL thread who would not have otherwise seen it. I have seen scores of threads that were posted only to have the second or third reply reference an earlier thread of the same topic, and yet the discussion goes on happily, regardless. Now if this was a thread about, say, quantum physics and had been thouroughly discussed by Chronos, et al, THEN I could understand your trepidation. But are you _really_ worried about stepping on soneone’s toes with your views on VPLs? ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/7 "2001-09-21T21:44:03Z")
Actually it seemed to me that while he mentioned “tacky” as a reason (he also put in “sorry, couldn’t resist” which usually conotes a joking tone), he noted that the subject of your thread was in another current thread (ie not bumping an old one). ---
**Author:** ![warmgun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecccb3/32.png) [@warmgun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/warmgun)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/8 "2001-09-21T22:13:01Z")
s??¶´i]Originally posted by wring \* \*\*Actually it seemed to me that while he mentioned “tacky” as a reason (he also put in “sorry, couldn’t resist” which usually conotes a joking tone), he noted that the subject of your thread was in another current thread (ie not bumping an old one). \*\* [/QUOTE] Yeah, usually. But I couldn’t tell (or didn’t get it) and apparently neither could you. And VPL’s is **not** the subject of another _current_ thread. If it was, I would have copped to my mistake ([example](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=87560)). It is the topic of an older thread. This kind of thing happens all the time without the thread being locked. The only dual-post locked threads recently (that I know of) were locked because the threads were running _concurrently_. And in most of those cases the threads were moved, not locked. I realize that taking issue with a mod will cause everybody to jump on their side. But, look, I’m not angry with Czarcasm at all. I know that the mods do a great job in keeping these boards running smooth. I respect the job they do and the flack they sometimes take for it. This is **not** one of those ‘flack giving’ cases. Threads have been un-locked in the past. I didn’t feel there was reason enough for locking the thread. So I politely **asked** for it to be re-viewed. Jeez, is that such a crime? ---
**Author:** ![warmgun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecccb3/32.png) [@warmgun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/warmgun)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/9 "2001-09-21T22:14:47Z")
Sorry about the ‘quote’, wring, it came up fine in ‘preview’. ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/10 "2001-09-21T23:05:31Z")
**The BBQ Pit** If you gotta flame, do it here. _This is the place for all complaints and other discussion regarding administration of the SDMB_ And there we go … ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/11 "2001-09-21T23:23:28Z")
**warmgun** the other thread’s only about a month old, and I suspect the mod thought it was newer than that (the impression I got from his post anyhow). I understand you’re not attempting to flame, might I suggest an email to the mod instead, in circumstances like that? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/12 "2001-09-21T23:28:59Z")
I _was_ joking about the tacky, and the topmost thread listed in the provided post was less than a month old. ---
**Author:** ![warmgun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecccb3/32.png) [@warmgun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/warmgun)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2001, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/13 "2001-09-22T20:41:35Z")
A month in IMHO is a long while. I should have found it on the search but didn’t - honest mistake. I still contend: 1. Locking a thread that was a repeat of an earlier thread in IMHO was not the norm (and mildly drastic), GQ maybe, not IMHO. Even though I missed it maybe I would like to see a re-poll. 2. Bumping an old, long thread uses more bandwidth than starting a new one. It was a popular topic, running more than one page so I don’t see the big deal in letting it ride. Other than pride. I’ll consider the subject dropped, but I go on record as stating that I believe you jumped the gun and locked capriciously. _And I’m still **not** mad or flaming_ you. And **Eutychus55** I resent the implication that I was flaming. I have never flamed anyone (except one time, jokingly, to a friend of mine that had just joined the SDMB). I’ve seen more heated debates in GQ that didn’t get moved. Read everyone of my post in that thread. I specifically said I was not upset and qualified my statements as being IMHO. I believe my use of the use of the word “harumph” in the title should have coveyed the light-hearted nature of my thread. It was **IMHO**. ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2001, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/14 "2001-09-22T20:49:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by warmgun \* > \*\* And **Eutychus55** I resent the implication that I was flaming. \*\* He italicized the second part of that quote from the forum descriptions, the part about the Pit being the designated place for discussions of the administration of this board. Are you using an old or non-standard browser or an unusually small font? Sometimes the italics get picked up as something else in those cases. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2001, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/15 "2001-09-22T21:06:58Z")
I guess that it all boils down to the fact that I made a decision that could have gone either way-just can’t please everybody. **OR…** I’m boss and you’re not! Neener, neener, neener! Thhhhhhpppppphhhh! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2001, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/16 "2001-09-22T22:28:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Czarcasm \* > \*\*I guess that it all boils down to the fact that I made a decision that could have gone either way-just can’t please everybody. > > **OR…** > > I’m boss and you’re not! Neener, neener, neener! > Thhhhhhpppppphhhh! > 🙂 \*\* What **Czar** said. Except for that “THE” boss thing. See, we _compete_ for the Baddest Irrationally Repressive Asshole Award. Picture an unholy combination of poetry slam, luge and berserker paintball competition. With farm animals. And faux black leather. It’s all a _judgement call_. Which you asked, **warmgun** –and fair 'nuff–but it ain’t a perfect world. The SDMB is a burgeoning, evolving, messy, busy volunteer-run corner of it. Frankly, we keep our eye on the ideal, punt and run. Not that quoting/parsing case law isn’t useful but it just ain’t always real-life _applicable_. Unless it involves sheep. Or goats. Veb ---
**Author:** ![warmgun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecccb3/32.png) [@warmgun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/warmgun)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2001, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/17 "2001-09-22T22:28:55Z")
**Manny** , old browser - so, sorry to Euty. **Czarcasm** , now see, that’s the spirit. Lol. Just wanted a little warm and fuzzy personal feed-back! I would love to use that as a sig! ---
**Author:** ![warmgun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecccb3/32.png) [@warmgun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/warmgun)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2001, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/18 "2001-09-22T22:51:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TVeblen \* > > It’s all a _judgement call_… > Unless it involves sheep. > Or goats. > > Veb \*\* Just for the heck of it, I went the ‘People of the Straight Dope’ to check you out. [This](http://wtf.rotten.com/wtf/wtf.01/whytx.html) isn’t _really_ ewe…er, I mean, you is it??? And I thought you were just **kid** ding! 🙂 Peace, Steve ---
**Author:** ![tavalla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tavalla/32/89_2.png) [@tavalla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tavalla)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2001, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/19 "2001-09-23T21:54:30Z")
So now we know where **Scylla** got the inspiration for Ewes Slut… ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2001, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harumph-to-the-czar-of-casm/83069/20 "2001-09-24T02:08:09Z")
Veb: > [@](#): > > Picture an unholy combination of poetry slam, luge and berserker paintball competition. > With farm animals. > And faux black leather. Name the place, I’m there.