# Harvey Weinstein accused of multiple cases of sexual harassment

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**Created:** [October 5, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073 "2017-10-05T23:31:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/301 "2017-10-20T09:17:54Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> [Rotherham child abuse: The background to the scandal - BBC News](http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28934963)
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> WTF is going on in the UK?
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> Eventually a few people got arrested and convicted. But only after years of abuse and the police and others in power covering it up.

Interesting that with recent and ongoing investigations into abuse of young people being carried out and covered up for literally decades by the BBC, both Houses of Parliament, military academies, football camps, private and public schools, and churches of various varieties (and probably a few others I’ve forgotten), you went with “a couple of Muslim guys” for your example.

But the British certainly have no moral high ground on long-running sexual (and other) abuse scandals.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2017, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/302 "2017-10-21T06:03:18Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> When this all began I was happy that people like Weinstein were at last getting their just deserts. It has now mushroomed into something I find a little worrying, and I’m not alone in this. Several commentators have warned that this is taking on shades of a McCarthyist witch hunt. Men are being ‘exposed’ for behavior that is no more than flirtational. Yes, take down true predators like Weinstein but don’t start asserting that every guy who ever winked at a woman is a sexist monster. Weinstein’s brother is now being accused of predation because he asked his secretary or whatever out. It’s common knowledge that the guy is nothing like his brother. But in this climate to be once accused is to stand convicted. And that is not right.

Well one commentator is Woody Allen, who knew nothing, nothing of the entire affair.

If you have ever taken a course on what not to do in this area, asking your secretary out (or any subordinate) is like number 2 on the list. You may not want to turn down the person who decides what your raise is, not to mention who gets fired first in a layoff.  
Which leads me to wonder - I wonder if Miramax had a course on avoiding sexual harassment, the kind I’ve taken just about every year for much of my career. That would be interesting to see.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2017, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/303 "2017-10-21T06:19:17Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Interesting that with recent and ongoing investigations into abuse of young people being carried out and covered up for literally decades by the BBC, both Houses of Parliament, military academies, football camps, private and public schools, and churches of various varieties (and probably a few others I’ve forgotten), you went with “a couple of Muslim guys” for your example.
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> But the British certainly have no moral high ground on long-running sexual (and other) abuse scandals.

What exactly are you insinuating?

What’s their religion have to do with the cover up by the powers that be?

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2017, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/304 "2017-10-21T06:53:14Z")

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Years ago I went to a workshop that was for being an extra in tv and movies nd it turned out it was a smarmy infomercial type of thing for a placement agency sort of like the old ready labor but for extras where you paid a fee and a certain percentage of any job you took through them but the guy who was one of the people on the creative side was fairly honest

and the guy was older and had been involved in various aspects of casting over the years and he told a few of us about how hed been hit on by man women and teenager just to be in commericals during the break (he said teen girls were the worst …)he gave me a card with some real contact numbers on it but I never followed up on it

but we’ve sent each other the occasional hey how are ya over the years …and I asked him about it last week and he said he’d heard Harvey was an sob …but to have to do all that to get an aspiring actress in bed (which isn’t the hardest thing in the world to do he said) you’d have to be a real bastard personality wise and problems beyond not getting any …

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/305 "2017-10-23T10:35:08Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> What exactly are you insinuating?
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> What’s their religion have to do with the cover up by the powers that be?

That you picked an oddly small and specific example given the multiple vast systemic child abuse scandals that have been going on in pretty much every British institution for decades.

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/306 "2017-10-23T13:52:51Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> When this all began I was happy that people like Weinstein were at last getting their just deserts. It has now mushroomed into something I find a little worrying, and I’m not alone in this. Several commentators have warned that this is taking on shades of a McCarthyist witch hunt.

The problem with the witch hunts was that there weren’t actually any witches.

In this case, there actually ARE sexual predators, and hunting for them is perfectly reasonable.

When a man’s reputation is ruined for “winking at a woman,” as you put it, I will agree it’s gone too far. I am unaware of a single example of such a thing. It has not gone NEARLY far enough. There are a huge number of men who have used their positions of power to rape and abuse women and I want to see them ruined and imprisoned.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/307 "2017-10-23T16:01:50Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> That you picked an oddly small and specific example given the multiple vast systemic child abuse scandals that have been going on in pretty much every British institution for decades.

Any one example would have been just as small and specific though.

That said, I wasn’t aware of how vast pedophila, sex abuse, and law enforcement collusion were in British institutions.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2017, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/308 "2017-10-25T11:42:38Z")

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[George H. W. Bush](http://people.com/politics/george-h-w-bush-apologizes-to-actress-after-she-claims-he-sexually-assaulted-her/amp/) apologizes for sexual assault.

FOUR YEARS AGO!

Did not see THAT coming.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/309 "2017-10-30T04:02:02Z")

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> [@nightshadea](#):
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> but we’ve sent each other the occasional hey how are ya over the years …and I asked him about it last week and he said he’d heard Harvey was an sob …but to have to do all that to get an aspiring actress in bed (which isn’t the hardest thing in the world to do he said) you’d have to be a real bastard personality wise and problems beyond not getting any …

I was wondering what kind of motivation/personality flaw would make someone adopt that behavior. Even from a purely amoral point of view, isn’t it grossly unprofessional, inefficient to allocate roles based on who will have sex with you? Cast the best actresses then get hookers.

He was evidently able to do some things exceptionally well in the movie business. I don’t know enough about him to say what made him good but if someone has more insight, I’d like to know.

Perhaps he wanted to be part of the movie business in every way, including sexually by having sex with actresses, but figured that, given his looks, his only chance was to use his position as producer to pressure actresses to have sex with him.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/310 "2017-10-31T20:59:39Z")

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> [@MichaelEmouse](#):
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> I was wondering what kind of motivation/personality flaw would make someone adopt that behavior. Even from a purely amoral point of view, isn’t it grossly unprofessional, inefficient to allocate roles based on who will have sex with you? Cast the best actresses then get hookers. …

Ego trip. “See that actress up there on the screen? I had her.” Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac, and all that sort of thing.

He wouldn’t have gotten any ego-massage from having _paid_ for sex.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/311 "2017-11-01T11:21:20Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Any one example would have been just as small and specific though.
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> That said, I wasn’t aware of how vast pedophila, sex abuse, and law enforcement collusion were in British institutions.

[It’s insane](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse_in_the_United_Kingdom). And ongoing.

The House of Commons is currently dealing with [various sexual harassment allegations](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/30/leadsom-to-address-mps-on-westminster-sexual-harassment-claims)(against adults) but has been [dragging its feet on investigating historic child abuse for years](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_paedophile_dossier) (I mean - they had the dossier in 1984!). There is more appetite for investigation now but still little in the way of actual results, in part because every time they get someone in to head the investigation they turn out to be [connected to someone accused of child abuse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Inquiry_into_Child_Sexual_Abuse)or because [the accused is now dead](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/sep/30/police-say-there-were-grounds-to-suspect-edward-heath-over-child-abuse-claims).

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/312 "2017-11-01T11:38:56Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Ego trip. “See that actress up there on the screen? I had her.” Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac, and all that sort of thing.
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> He wouldn’t have gotten any ego-massage from having _paid_ for sex.

True. The finest 10-grand-a-night sexworker in the land would not be something to brag about (ask Elliot Spitzer). Or even a media celeb already known to be a hot-panted party girl/boy.

A legit actor/actress, OTOH, heyy, “#winning!” AND reaffirming himself as the “gatekeeper”.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/313 "2017-11-24T00:53:38Z")

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Uma Thurman, a few hours ago:

> [@](#):
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> Uma Thurman just posted this on her Instagram:
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> “Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! (Except you Harvey, and all your wicked conspirators - I’m glad it’s going slowly -  
> You don’t deserve a bullet)  
> -stay tuned  
> Uma Thurman”

[https://t.co/LUbzqJedHK](https://t.co/LUbzqJedHK)

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/314 "2018-03-20T12:48:01Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Film and TV studio The Weinstein Company said on Monday it has filed for voluntary bankruptcy. It will also release all employees from non-disclosure agreements which may have silenced some victims of alleged sexual harassment and assault by its former chairman, Harvey Weinstein.
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> [https://www.cnet.com/news/weinstein-company-files-for-bankruptcy-staff-can-break-silence/#ftag=CADf328eec#ftag](https://www.cnet.com/news/weinstein-company-files-for-bankruptcy-staff-can-break-silence/#ftag=CADf328eec#ftag)

Hopefully this will affect the Stormy Daniels  
NDA case.

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/315 "2018-03-20T13:55:54Z")

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It’s hard to see how it’d have any relevance at all for the Stormy Daniels case. Her agreement wasn’t with the Weinstein company, and so the Weinstein company relinquishing all of their NDAs doesn’t do anything with hers.

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/316 "2018-03-20T14:39:43Z")

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It’ll be interesting to see just how many NDAs there were.

Incidentally, I note that another Hollywood star has come forward with a story about being blatantly, unwantedly groped, this time by Philip Berk, former head of the Hollywood Foreign Press Association (who run the Golden Globe Awards). And that star is…[Brendan Fraser](https://www.gq.com/story/what-ever-happened-to-brendan-fraser).

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/317 "2018-05-24T21:57:05Z")

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Report says he’s turning himself in tomorrow in NYC to face charges in a 2004 assault case.

[Harvey Weinstein set to turn himself in on sex crime charges in New York – New York Daily News](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/harvey-weinstein-set-turn-sex-crime-charges-article-1.4007960)

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/318 "2018-05-25T08:52:32Z")

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Oh dear… it looks like there’s a chance he might go to jail. Maybe he can ask to bunk with Bill Cosby.

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/319 "2018-05-25T12:11:17Z")

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turned himself in , Bond expected to be $2 mil

> **[Harvey Weinstein is charged with rape and sex abuse in cases involving 2 women...](https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/25/entertainment/harvey-weinstein-to-surrender/index.html)**
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> Harvey Weinstein was arraigned Friday on charges of first- and third-degree rape and committing a criminal sexual act in the first degree, seven months after women began to come forward with stories alleging sexual misconduct by the famed Hollywood...

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/320 "2018-05-25T13:23:00Z")

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How can Harvey Weinstein possibly get a fair trial? He stands convicted already in the media and on the social networks. Could there really be anyone at all in the jury pool who hasn’t seen any of the coverage and been affected by it? Good luck trying this alleged rape on its merits.

I’ve only followed the story sporadically but even I think he’s a scumbag rapist. He still deserves an impartial jury though (if such a thing actually exists.)

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