# Harvey Weinstein accused of multiple cases of sexual harassment **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 5, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073 "2017-10-05T23:31:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/381 "2020-03-11T16:25:50Z")
That Guardian article quotes from a note to Weinstein from his brother — “U deserve a lifetime achievement award for the sheer savagery and immorality and inhumanness, for the acts u have perpetrated. Oh I forgot. They were all consensual. Then what are u in rehab for? Sex addiction. Don’t think so. You wouldn’t have harassment, assault and rape charges u have now received, from 82 women for active consensual sex.” ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/382 "2020-03-11T16:29:30Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Completely disproportionate. People have been given less for murder. The casting couch has often been a 2-way street and many an actress (and actor) in the past has driven it to stardom. The fact is that although a creep Weinstein was a great producer and that is one thing that cannot be taken away from him. I’m not saying he didn’t deserve jailtime but 23 years is ludicrous and I hope it gets cut on appeal. The Internet is forever, dude. I hope this post is carved on your grave. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/383 "2020-03-11T16:29:46Z")
[[double tone]](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/13/arts/law-and-order-sound.html) - or so the closed captioning calls it ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/384 "2020-03-11T17:03:36Z")
Sentence is fantastic news. > [@aldiboronti](#): > > Completely disproportionate. People have been given less for murder. The casting couch has often been a 2-way street and many an actress (and actor) in the past has driven it to stardom. The fact is that although a creep Weinstein was a great producer and that is one thing that cannot be taken away from him. I’m not saying he didn’t deserve jailtime but 23 years is ludicrous and I hope it gets cut on appeal. Rape culture demonstrated in one brief post. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/385 "2020-03-11T17:14:43Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > 23 years in prison for Harvey Rapestein. > > [https://twitter.com/AP/status/1237756347497811969?s=20](https://twitter.com/AP/status/1237756347497811969?s=20) He was only convicted 2-3 weeks ago. Isn’t the period between conviction & sentencing typically longer? Any idea why he was sentenced so quickly? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/386 "2020-03-11T17:18:40Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > He was only convicted 2-3 weeks ago. Isn’t the period between conviction & sentencing typically longer? Any idea why he was sentenced so quickly? why do you think this is quickly? Sentencing can happen immediately after conviction. It’s usually in death penalty cases that there’s s long gap. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/387 "2020-03-11T17:27:12Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > why do you think this is quickly? Sentencing can happen immediately after conviction. It’s usually in death penalty cases that there’s s long gap. It can take a long time though, especially for high profile cases. [Bill Cosby](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/25/arts/television/bill-cosby-sentencing.html) was convicted in April 2018, but not sentenced until September. So it was a valid question. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/388 "2020-03-11T17:28:04Z")
[So anyway](https://apnews.com/310554f06f644d41e1c0513600099ce1)… > [@Harvey Weinstein](#): > > Thousands of men are losing due process. I’m worried about this country… I’m totally confused. I think men are confused about these issues. Yes, Harvey, you are confused. Let me help you: Sexual assault is bad. Rape is bad. Using your position to force women to either give in to your sexual advances or have their careers destroyed is bad. Decent people - and yes, that means “men” - don’t do those things. Ever. They have never been “acceptable”, even when the people doing them knew they could get away with them. The fact that your “empathy has grown” and that your new “mission is to help people” does not absolve you from the bad things you’ve done. The fact that you’ve made a lot of good films means even less. You are not being unjustly persecuted here. You committed crimes. You are going to jail, probably for the rest of your life. Does that clear things up for you, Harvey? ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/389 "2020-03-11T17:33:19Z")
Weinstein’s quote needs a “Yeah, but…” in front of it. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/390 "2020-03-11T17:34:10Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Completely disproportionate. People have been given less for murder. The casting couch has often been a 2-way street and many an actress (and actor) in the past has driven it to stardom. The fact is that although a creep Weinstein was a great producer and that is one thing that cannot be taken away from him. I’m not saying he didn’t deserve jailtime but 23 years is ludicrous and I hope it gets cut on appeal. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Sentence is fantastic news. > > Rape culture demonstrated in one brief post. True. I suppose we should appreciate the gift of tangible proof of rape culture. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/391 "2020-03-11T17:37:46Z")
The Wikipedia editing frenzy has kicked in. At present his entry begins > [@](#): > > Harvey Weinstein CBE (/ˈwaɪnstiːn/; born March 19, 1952) is an American convicted sex offender and former film producer. Ouch. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/392 "2020-03-11T19:09:29Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > I just did a full stomp no holds barred Happy Dance in the library. > > YES! > **[goodbye to you by scandal - Bing](https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=goodbye%2Bto%2Byou%2Bby%2Bscandal&qpvt=goodbye%2Bto%2Byou%2Bby%2Bscandal&FORM=VDRE)** > > Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/393 "2020-03-11T19:18:32Z")
I’m sure that he’s used the casting couch a lot more than three times. And maybe, most of those times, while reprehensible, were nonetheless not reprehensible enough to justify 23 years. But the court wasn’t deciding on most of his occasions of being creepy. They were deciding on three specific instances that were, in fact, reprehensible enough to justify 23 years. And there were probably also more instances that were just as reprehensible, for which the court had no or insufficient evidence, but it’s pretty much moot now, given that he’s almost certainly going to spend the rest of his life in prison, and there’s very little that could be done, practically speaking, to increase that sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/394 "2020-03-11T19:55:43Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > and there’s very little that could be done, practically speaking, to increase that sentence. Well, there is hope, actually. Extradition, bind him over. Send him on to his next Series of trials. Consecutive sentences are in the realm of possibility. I just hope he doesn’t die before he sees a hammer come down with another multi-decades-long sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/395 "2020-03-11T20:05:45Z")
What I mean is that, for a man of his age, there is very little chance of a 23-year sentence being any different from a 50-year sentence. While it might be emotionally satisfying to sentence him to a bazillion years behind bars, he’s still going to get out when he dies. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/396 "2020-03-11T20:05:29Z")
What I mean is that, for a man of his age, there is very little chance of a 23-year sentence being any different from a 50-year sentence. While it might be emotionally satisfying to sentence him to a bazillion years behind bars, he’s still going to get out when he dies. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/397 "2020-03-11T20:19:32Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > What I mean is that, for a man of his age, there is very little chance of a 23-year sentence being any different from a 50-year sentence. While it might be emotionally satisfying to sentence him to a bazillion years behind bars, he’s still going to get out when he dies. For someone with his ego, who has had the wealth and power to hold everyone to their knees for so long, I don’t discount the power of one humiliation after another. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/398 "2020-03-11T20:22:02Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Well, there is hope, actually. Extradition, bind him over. Send him on to his next Series of trials. Consecutive sentences are in the realm of possibility. I just hope he doesn’t die before he sees a hammer come down with another multi-decades-long sentence. The question is should CA prosecutors spend money on a prosecution if he’s likely to never spend a day in a CA jail if/when convicted. He’s 67 & has health problems, he’s likely not going to make 23 more years. Assuming enough time in the statue of limitations, I could see delaying trial/dropping charges until NY appeals play out. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/399 "2020-03-11T20:37:33Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > The question is should CA prosecutors spend mo… YES ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/400 "2020-03-11T20:39:41Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > The question is should CA prosecutors spend money on a prosecution if he’s likely to never spend a day in a CA jail if/when convicted. Do only his NY victims deserve justice, and their day in court? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073.md?page=21)