# Harvey Weinstein accused of multiple cases of sexual harassment

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**Created:** [October 5, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073 "2017-10-05T23:31:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/81 "2017-10-10T10:05:41Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I’ve seen plenty of criticism from “Hollywood indignates”. I haven’t gone and checked the response of every last liberal in Hollywood (that would take weeks!), but I’ve seen many open criticisms of this type of behavior, especially from women in entertainment.

This guy was good at padding the pockets of the democratic establishment. [Both Clinton and the Obamas are keeping quiet about this.](http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/09/politics/clinton-obama-weinstein/index.html)

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/82 "2017-10-10T10:12:21Z")

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tfb, I’d ‘keep quiet’ about it because it’s none of my business either.

So, about the illegality and criminal charges?

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/83 "2017-10-10T10:15:42Z")

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An opinion piece in the NYtimes by Lena Dunham, asking men in Hollywood to speak louder about the regrets they may have for enabling behavior like Weinstein’s: [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/opinion/harvey-weinstein-lena-dunham-silence-.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region&region=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/opinion/harvey-weinstein-lena-dunham-silence-.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region&region=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region)

Also in today’s issue is an statement by the NYtimes editor, replying to the former reporter who stated that HW was able to quash a story she had in 2004 - the one that Damon and Crowe supposedly called about. The Editor wasn’t there at the time, but judged the story on its merits and said she didn’t have enough story. Ouch.

Also, a different article states that Harvey thinks his brother is the one who gave the lawsuit info to the NY Times. Et Tu, Bob? 😉

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/84 "2017-10-10T12:42:53Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> This guy was good at padding the pockets of the democratic establishment. [Both Clinton and the Obamas are keeping quiet about this.](http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/09/politics/clinton-obama-weinstein/index.html)

It’s been a few days – if they don’t give clear criticism of Weinstein over the next week or two, then they deserve as much condemnation as the many, many Republicans who didn’t wholeheartedly criticize and stop supporting Trump, O’Reilly, and Roger Ailes after their accusers came forward.

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**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/85 "2017-10-10T13:11:27Z")

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A friend remains loyal.

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**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/86 "2017-10-10T13:13:19Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Might have been a little late (and/or insufficiently corroborated as at writing time - even SNL lawyers have standards) for SNL this past Saturday. I’m wondering if John Oliver will mention it though.

SNL’s Lorne Michaels admitted he killed talking about it after a dress rehearsal because “it is a New York thing.” More left wing covering one of their own slime.

> **[No one knew about Harvey Weinstein? Give me a break](https://nypost.com/2017/10/09/no-one-knew-about-harvey-weinstein-give-me-a-break/)**
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> No one knew. That’s the party line in Hollywood regarding Harvey Weinstein, the once-powerful producer revealed as a decades-long sexual predator. Monday morning — five days after the New York Time…

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/87 "2017-10-10T17:58:53Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> It’s been a few days – if they don’t give clear criticism of Weinstein over the next week or two, then they deserve as much condemnation as the many, many Republicans who didn’t wholeheartedly criticize and stop supporting Trump, O’Reilly, and Roger Ailes after their accusers came forward.

Why should they criticize anyone over _allegations_?

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/88 "2017-10-10T19:04:22Z")

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> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#):
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> SNL’s Lorne Michaels admitted he killed talking about it after a dress rehearsal because “it is a New York thing.” More left wing covering one of their own slime.  
> [No one knew about Harvey Weinstein? Give me a break](http://nypost.com/2017/10/09/no-one-knew-about-harvey-weinstein-give-me-a-break/)

It appears it got killed when it made it to the dress rehearsal and didn’t get laughs. If they wanted to suppress it, it wouldn’t have made it out of the writers’ room, would it?

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/89 "2017-10-10T19:05:34Z")

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Both the NYTimes and The New Yorker have further articles, including statements from Gwyneth Paltrow, Angelina Jolie, Rosanna Arquette and more against Weinstein.

George Clooney has made a statement against HW but also defending his (Clooney’s) ignorance. The New Yorker article is by Rowan Farrow, who clearly is invested in the topic given his estrangement from Woody Allen.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/90 "2017-10-10T19:06:55Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> It’s been a few days – if they don’t give clear criticism of Weinstein over the next week or two, then they deserve as much condemnation as the many, many Republicans who didn’t wholeheartedly criticize and stop supporting Trump, O’Reilly, and Roger Ailes after their accusers came forward.

I’d be a lot more upset if Obama met with Harvey to plot policy, or if the left ran him for office and supported him after the accusations were known.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/91 "2017-10-10T19:31:41Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> An opinion piece in the NYtimes by Lena Dunham, asking men in Hollywood to speak louder about the regrets they may have for enabling behavior like Weinstein’s: [https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/opinion/harvey-weinstein-lena-dunham-silence-.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region&region=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/opinion/harvey-weinstein-lena-dunham-silence-.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region&region=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region)
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> A 😉

Are women blameless in this? I"m not talking about the victims, but about the women who knew about these men who weren’t victims and yet also said nothing.

I also notice that no one is being outed except for Weinstein, so all this talk of “courage” is starting to make me a little ill. Courage would be risking the wrath of someone powerful who isn’t down on the ground to kick right now. If only Weinstein goes down then no one, women or men, are evidently serious about this problem.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/92 "2017-10-10T19:33:20Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Why should they criticize anyone over _allegations_?

He settled with eight women and some really credible people have said he sexually harassed them. No one should be advocating jail time for him without charges and a trial, which is probably not happening, but given the number of women and their credibilty, he did it.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/93 "2017-10-10T19:44:34Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> He settled with eight women and some really credible people have said he sexually harassed them. No one should be advocating jail time for him without charges and a trial, which is probably not happening, but given the number of women and their credibilty, he did it.

Most of those Eight women took really small payouts. So either they were nuisance suits or had little validity.

Who are these “credible” woman?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/94 "2017-10-10T19:49:43Z")

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Gwynyth Paltrow, Ashley Judd, Angelina Jolie, Rose McGowan, and Rosanna Arquette.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/95 "2017-10-10T20:06:17Z")

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> [@up\_the\_junction](#):
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> I don’t follow this too closely, can anyone say if HW has done anything illegal?

The NewYorker article, which may be paywalled -

> **[From Aggressive Overtures to Sexual Assault: Harvey Weinstein’s Accusers Tell...](https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/from-aggressive-overtures-to-sexual-assault-harvey-weinsteins-accusers-tell-their-stories)**
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> Multiple women share harrowing accounts of sexual assault and harassment by the film executive.

Tells the story of Ambra Gutierrez. Weinstein lunged at her during a private meeting, grabbed her breasts and tried to reach up her skirt. She extricated herself from the situation by promising to meet him later and went directly to the police station and filed a report. When she met HW again she was wearing a wire.

However, it would have been a 3rd degree misdemeanor and Manhattan DA Cy Vance declined to prosecute. HW settled with her and bought her silence.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/96 "2017-10-10T20:12:08Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Gwynyth Paltrow, Ashley Judd, Angelina Jolie, Rose McGowan, and Rosanna Arquette.

I see unwanted advances.

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/97 "2017-10-10T20:36:11Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> However, it would have been a 3rd degree misdemeanor and Manhattan DA Cy Vance declined to prosecute. HW settled with her and bought her silence.

Didn’t she sell something, something that apparently enabled his to continue with other women?

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/98 "2017-10-10T21:00:13Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I see unwanted advances.

…you see unwanted advances? Then you are seeing sexual harassment in action. Do you really need us to spell out why this is sexual harassment, and not just a guy asking a girl out on a date?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/99 "2017-10-10T21:34:43Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …you see unwanted advances? Then you are seeing sexual harassment in action. Do you really need us to spell out why this is sexual harassment, and not just a guy asking a girl out on a date?

Then every guy who hit on a unwilling potential partner is sexual harassment.

He wasnt putting roofies in drinks. Or firing women who wouldnt put out.

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**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/harvey-weinstein-accused-of-multiple-cases-of-sexual-harassment/798073/100 "2017-10-10T21:37:54Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Then every guy who hit on a unwilling potential partner is sexual harassment.
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> He wasnt putting roofies in drinks. Or firing women who wouldnt put out.

Dude, you need to learn what sexual harassment is before commenting on it.

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