Yes, Trump voters tend to be quite ignorant. Present company excepted, of course.
Yes, the economy, civil rights, environmental protection and threats of major wars are of minor importance to many American voters. Guns Guns Guns!!! That’s what the people want.
The notion that Trump supports the common man over the elite interests of the Democratic Party is simply laughable. I’m laughing at it. It’s pure nonsense from top to bottom.
In fact Trump represents elite interests from top to bottom. What do you think all those Goldman Sachs bankers are doing in his administration?
As for Trump representing the party of Christianity, well, there you go. Trump has literally never been to church in his life. Trump is actually the perfect synthesis of what elite Republicans actually believe about religion. Grab them by the pussy, when you’re rich they let you get away with it.
Trump is going to cut taxes for the rich, increase taxes on the middle class. He’s going to hand out corporate welfare like crazy and take away health care for working people. The only time he ever goes outside is to play golf.
The only thing that authentically connects him to the conservative movement is that he has the same rage and entitlement and frustrated resentment that they hear on talk radio all day every day. He doesn’t believe the same things they believe, he doesn’t associate with them in any way, he’s going to defraud and exploit them mercilessly, but because he’s willing to rant and rave and swear and bluster and threaten, they love him.
He’s the poor man’s idea of a rich man. Gold plated toilet, on his third european model wife, screams at his servants, stiffs the people he hires, cheats on his taxes, and a monstrously inflated ego that can’t conceal the desperate gnawing realization that nobody respects him. The only time he’s happy is when he’s at one of his rallies where he can say whatever he wants and the crowd roars approval.
This is the face of populism in 2017.
And the thing is, Trump is never going to have to face the consequences for all the damage he’s doing, because he literally doesn’t care about anything except his own ego. Leaving a legacy? Changing the country for the better? Making the tough decisions? All meaningless to him. What matters is hearing people say his name on TV. So when he leaves the Republican party and the conservative movement in a shambles, is he going to care one bit? Of course not. Trump is immune to that. The only thing that could really hurt him is being treated as irrelevant.
I dunno that things changed all that much. Dems have always represented the better instincts of the common man, and the better instincts of the elites, and republicans have always represented the wort instincts of the common man, and the worst of the elite.
Democrats are for improving things, republicans are about reacting negatively to changes.
That is just *so sad. * Be strong.
Hillary and trump both fall in almost the exact midpoint of the sentences about their respective parties. Hillary spoke to the better instincts of the common man, but nobody listened (some of which was her own fault). trump embodies the worst instincts of the elite, while pretending to represent the worst instincts of the common man.
Democrats sure are “reacting negatively” to the changes President Trump is making.
…because they’re regressive and actively hurting people.
Perhaps the term was intended as an abbreviation for PROsperity Christianity.
No one I know is pro-abortion.
Because every American is going to be wealthy one day. And, when they get there, they don’t want to have to pay taxes to the government that made it all possible.
Or, if the government would simply get out of the way, we’d all be wealthy. Well, everyone but the layabout losers who don’t deserve it anyway.
Yes, I truly believe that is the logic in getting poor people to vote for Republicans.
Republicans represent the interests of the common man. Democrats represent what the interests of the common man would be, if the common man weren’t so stupid, selfish, and inferior.
Regards,
Shodan
Apathy vs aspiration? I think you may be on to something there, but I would not express it in such insulting terms towards the common man as you have chosen to paint them with.
The Democrats never represented the better instincts of anyone. Keep in mind that it was the Democrats who wanted to keep slavery, who instituted Jim Crow laws, who formed the KKK and still to this day want minorities totally dependent upon government so that they will continue to vote for Democrats who will give them stuff.
How do tax cuts for the rich help the common man?
It’s really a shame that you have such a low opinion of veterans like me because we have very different political views. I still have hope that one day you might recognize that smart, decent and honest people can still disagree on issues honestly and reasonably, without being stupid, ignorant, or evil.
It gives them an incentive to be rich.
Exactly. Trump’s support comes from the appeal of the dog-and-pony show he puts on, and his election had nothing to do with “elites” or the “common man.” A large range of socio-economic classes vote for him. Trump is essentially a cult leader with a cult following, and class has little to do with it in actuality.
The terms elite and common man are empty media tropes, and to base a whole thread on them as if they could provid some kind of accurate understanding of reality will get you nowhere.
Oh Christ, someone dug up this bit of silliness? Back say 100 years ago, Republicans WERE the more enlightened of the party in race relations. Democrats tolerated their racist brethren in the south to keep a working majority together. That changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act. As LBJ famously predicted (and as it turned out, not nearly apocalyptically enough) this would cost the party the south for a generation. The Nixonian Southern Strategy welcomed these old racist Democrats into the Republican Party with open arms. All the old racists in the south became Republicans. Once rid of having to cater to them, the Democratic Party became the far more progressive party on race relations while Republicans have embraced white nationalism. The parties have essentially flipped on race relations, so the past Democratic support of Jim Crow is nothing more than historical trivia.
I don’t see a realignment, just a temporary shuffling of the deck due to a charismatic con man. When you tell the coal miners that you will get their jobs back and you don’t get them back, why would they stick with you? If I ran for president I’d tell them- the government didn’t take your jobs and the government would get them back. The truth is that coal can’t compete with other energy sources in the marketplace and rather than fantasize about jobs that will never come back, we need to provide training and infrastructure for jobs of the future. Rust belt factory workers felt abandoned. Will they stick with a guy who promised to bring jobs back and didn’t deliver? Will those that will lose health care vote for the gang that took it from them? I doubt it. So we’ve seen a lot of middle America get the wool pulled over their eyes. Lying to people only works for so long. All Republicans have really accomplished is waking up the white nationalists and bringing it out in the open. That may not work out to be a good thing for them.
Not smarmy, but I appreciate the few conservatives here for not leaving. I know people here, myself included, can make it hostile for those outside the echo chamber.
Having said d that, what do you feel conservatives mean by what you said? Do you feel liberals are engaging in well meaning but totally unrealistic social engineering? That they are so (economically) specialized they cannot fend for themselves? Or that they abandon cultural traditions?