# has a spirit ever been captured on camera? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 7, 2004, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002 "2004-03-07T19:56:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/1 "2004-03-07T19:56:54Z")
[Link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=243600) This… illuminating GQ thread piques my ire in a not insignificant manner. For one > [@](#): > > General Questions > Got a **factual** question for the Teeming Millions (and possibly Cecil) to consider? Post it here. Hmmmm… Allow me to grapple with the cognitive dissonance I’m experiencing. … … Nope, didn’t help. If it weren’t for my horse, I never would have spent that year in college. > [@](#): > > i was wondering in my frustration whether any full-bodied aparitions of spirit people have been caught on cameras, or anything else of great importance regarding the spirit world. i performed a quick google search a while ago with limited success, i wondered if anyone else had any files to share, or even stories. i was wondering in my frustration whether reading comprehension skills, diction and critical thinking had ever been recorded on film. > [@](#): > > phew, tough crowd tonight. any believers out there? Belief. **Factual Question**. Belief. **Factual Question**. If it weren’t for my horse… > [@](#): > > I dreamt there were little demons running after me. Almost catching me, but never getting a good enough grasp around my waist. I always managed to get away, but just barely. The next morning, I woke up and remembered my nightmares. No big deal. I got undressed to take a shower and noticed three-finger burns on my skin, on both sides, around my waist. Just like where the demons were trying to grab onto me in my dream. They were very obviously burn marks, though I felt no pain. They ended up blistering, and peeling. > > Sylvie decided that she would get her boyfriend’s aunt in, to see what it was about. She was experienced in these kinds of things. We had never told her the story about the “spirits” on the night I moved in, 2 years before. As soon as she saw the blisters, she went into my bedroom. She said, “Cheeky, you brought spirits in the place when you moved in. They don’t want to see you go. And they’re doing everything in their power to keep you here. But you have to go. They might follow you, but they’re very at home where they are. You have to go.” I said, “What kind of spirits?” She answered, “It’s like shooting white lights I’ve never seen before, but they’re pissed off as all hell. You have to go. You’ve been a hostess for them as long as you’ve been here.” > > So I left. And I never had something like that happen again. And I pray I never will. From that moment, with the burns on my skin, I truly believed it was more than I could explain with science or logic. Is it more than you could explain with eczema? The fact that your friend’s cousin’s brother’s aunt was eating mushrooms doesn’t automatically mean that you needed to call Ghostbusters. I mean really! Where’s your sense of hospitality? I seem to remember hearing “but really mom! I’ll take care of the new shooting star ghosts! I’ll feed them and everything! You won’t have to do anything!” If you can’t handle your responsiblities, you shouldn’t be bringing home these stray ghosts! Now how about _factual_ questions in GQ? If it weren’t for my horse, I never would have spent that year in college. ---
**Author:** ![Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Have_I_Because_I)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/2 "2004-03-07T20:04:56Z")
Ilsa Lund, I agree with you, I think. Do you find fault with them saying 'ghosts exist! any photos?"? Would you not find fault with “Has any evidence of a ghost been captured on film?” Just wanted to make sure. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/3 "2004-03-07T20:07:43Z")
> [@Never Have I Because I](#): > > Ilsa Lund, I agree with you, I think. > > Do you find fault with them saying 'ghosts exist! any photos?"? > > Would you not find fault with > > “Has any evidence of a ghost been captured on film?” > > Just wanted to make sure. Both are equally stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Have_I_Because_I)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/4 "2004-03-07T20:12:29Z")
How so? ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/5 "2004-03-07T20:14:24Z")
If only the system had a block-stupid-questions mode… However, just to comment, we do get lots of questions on the nature of “Is there any scientific or physical evidence to support the existence of X”, where “X” has included about everything, such as ghosts, yetis, bigfoots, Loch Ness monsters, dinosaurs, colors, Noah’s Ark, Joan of Ark, Arkansas, and other arcania. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/6 "2004-03-07T20:15:44Z")
> [@Never Have I Because I](#): > > How so? Both obviate a dearth of acumen. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/7 "2004-03-07T20:17:08Z")
> [@C K Dexter Haven](#): > > If only the system had a block-stupid-questions mode… > > However, just to comment, we do get lots of questions on the nature of “Is there any scientific or physical evidence to support the existence of X”, where “X” has included about everything, such as ghosts, yetis, bigfoots, Loch Ness monsters, dinosaurs, colors, Noah’s Ark, Joan of Ark, Arkansas, and other arcania. That would be fine, but that isn’t really what the OP asked. He just wanted affirmation of his beliefs. It was an IMHO thread. ---
**Author:** ![Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Have_I_Because_I)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/8 "2004-03-07T20:24:19Z")
To put it a better way: If you applied the same logic as you seem to me to be doing: Asking for evidence of black holes is dumb. Why? Black Holes would explain some things that occur in space. But they are only theoretical. Might be other explanations that haven’t occured to us yet. Ghosts/Spirtis would explain some things that we think occur on the planet(spooky noises, hauntings). But they are only theortetical. Sometimes there are explanations, but they may occur, as we don’t understand enough about them. The only difference is that ghosts can be explained away most of the time. The truly unexplainable may be caused by things we don’t understand that are not in fact ghosts, or they may be. We just don’t understand enough, but we can make a educated guess that they don’t exist and or we don’t have good enough technology to find out for sure. The same applies to black holes if we switched it with ghosts and replaced don’t exist with ‘probably exists’. ---
**Author:** ![Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Have_I_Because_I)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/9 "2004-03-07T20:26:51Z")
If I understand what you mean by that correctly, Ilsa. Needed to go as the last sentence of my last post. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/10 "2004-03-07T20:29:03Z")
> [@](#): > > Black Holes would explain some things that occur in space. But they are only theoretical. Might be other explanations that haven’t occured to us yet. To suggest that equal amounts of evidence or logical support exists for ghosts and black holes is ludicrous. [Link](http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/gr/public/bh_home.html) ---
**Author:** ![Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Have_I_Because_I)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/11 "2004-03-07T20:33:56Z")
I wasn’t trying to that. But I can see where you could draw that from, but that wasn’t my intent. It’s just that they are comparable to what you seem to think is not OK to ask, but not in the size of beliavibilty. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/12 "2004-03-07T20:53:40Z")
> [@C K Dexter Haven](#): > > If only the system had a block-stupid-questions mode… Has a stupid question ever been captured on camera? ---
**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/13 "2004-03-07T21:13:42Z")
Simply asking if there’s photos of ghosts ‘piques my ire in a not insignificant manner’ you must go through life in a constant state of ire. As for the blister story it does top the chart in stupidity but not inherently offensive to deserve anyone’s anger. (And I think it’s slightly misleading that the blister story IS NOT THE OPs) Doesn’t a pitting require some level of totally over the top behavior or chronic behavior on the part of one person not just a stupid thread you disapprove of? What a lame weak pitting. ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/14 "2004-03-07T21:20:46Z")
> [@C K Dexter Haven](#): > > Arkansas Is a myth. It was fabricated by Alabama to keep 'bama from looking so bad. ---
**Author:** ![grisham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@grisham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grisham)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/15 "2004-03-07T21:27:36Z")
Well I may venture to help answer you instead of taking part in this argument. There are a few authors who have put books out on this the most prolific is Hans Holzer. Take it for what its worth but he has a crapload of pictures and witnesses. Hope that helps you. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/16 "2004-03-07T21:34:34Z")
> [@Darkhold](#): > > Simply asking if there’s photos of ghosts ‘piques my ire in a not insignificant manner’ you must go through life in a constant state of ire. > > As for the blister story it does top the chart in stupidity but not inherently offensive to deserve anyone’s anger. (And I think it’s slightly misleading that the blister story IS NOT THE OPs) Doesn’t a pitting require some level of totally over the top behavior or chronic behavior on the part of one person not just a stupid thread you disapprove of? > > What a lame weak pitting. Go to hell. It was the “Ooh, you never know, spooky spook” bullshit in GQ that pissed me off. ---
**Author:** ![CheekyMonkey613](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e480ec/32.png) [@CheekyMonkey613](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheekyMonkey613)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/17 "2004-03-07T21:34:55Z")
> [@Ilsa\_Lund](#): > > [Link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=243600) > Is it more than you could explain with eczema? The fact that your friend’s cousin’s brother’s aunt was eating mushrooms doesn’t automatically mean that you needed to call Ghostbusters. Well Ilsa… Since you seem to be pseudo-pitting me, without mentioning my name, I will have to add that you’ve omitted the most important part of my response. The question was if anybody’s been able to capture ghosts on film. My (admittedly) long response was that I have what my two close friends are identifying as the ghosts they saw on the night the pictures were taken, on my film. Further happenings, which produced physical effects, also lead to the fact that they were indeed some kind of spirits. Thank you for your dermatological concerns. No, I don’t have eczema, nor any other kind of skin condition. What happened, happened. I can’t explain it away with science, no matter how hard I try. I know I had burns on my stomach/waist area. If there was a way of explaining it away, I would have. And THAT was my FACTUAL response to the question in GQ. If you don’t like it, tough. If you can’t believe that there are indeed some things that happen in this world that are beyond your comprehension, then I pity you. Perhaps Lib can come in here and invoke is Axiom S5s or whatever the fuck it’s called. I know what I saw on my body. My friends know what they saw on my film. You’ve surely decided you’ve learned enough in this lifetime. Good luck with it. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/18 "2004-03-07T21:35:36Z")
> [@GMRyujin](#): > > Is a myth. It was fabricated by Alabama to keep 'bama from looking so bad. But I know people who work for the State of Arkansas! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/19 "2004-03-07T21:42:30Z")
> [@CheekyMonkey613](#): > > Well Ilsa… Since you seem to be pseudo-pitting me, without mentioning my name, I will have to add that you’ve omitted the most important part of my response. The question was if anybody’s been able to capture ghosts on film. My (admittedly) long response was that I have what my two close friends are identifying as the ghosts they saw on the night the pictures were taken, on my film. Further happenings, which produced physical effects, also lead to the fact that they were indeed some kind of spirits. The _fact_? Bullshit. [Lens flare](http://jonathanclark.com/diary/flare/) doesn’t prove shit. > [@](#): > > Thank you for your dermatological concerns. No, I don’t have eczema, nor any other kind of skin condition. What happened, happened. I can’t explain it away with science, no matter how hard I try. I know I had burns on my stomach/waist area. If there was a way of explaining it away, I would have. Burns _hurt_. Some rashes or skin conditions don’t. Did you see a doctor? Do you have a file in your chart saying “Burns, Second-Degree. Most likely caused by maniacal demons while victim was simultaneously sleeping and running for her life from said demons. Recommend Exorcism.”? ---
**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2004, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/20 "2004-03-07T21:56:59Z")
> [@Ilsa\_Lund](#): > > Go to hell. It was the “Ooh, you never know, spooky spook” bullshit in GQ that pissed me off. Does somebody need a nap? I call your pitting weak and ill focused and now it looks like a little tantrum. And it seems to me that the author of the question was indeed asking a factual question. “Are there any photos of ghosts?” The answer is no. If the thread was hijacked later too bad let the mods move it. Which of course NEVER happens. :rolleyes: [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002.md?page=2)