# has a spirit ever been captured on camera? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 7, 2004, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002 "2004-03-07T19:56:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![a\_gherkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@a\_gherkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a_gherkin)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2004, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/101 "2004-03-12T21:08:17Z")
That was fabricated, i just wanted an excuse to call that guy a loner. ---
**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2004, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/102 "2004-03-12T21:08:30Z")
Yeah, its only a message board. This thread has not had over 2100 views, there have not been nearly a hundred posts to this message with nearly 30 different, intelligent, and very real people behind the usernames. There are not 44,000, and probably about a thousand people on this message board daily. If you think about it, it really isn’t any different than yelling a conversation across a crowded airport terminal. It is just a message board. There are only real live people laughing at your every mistake, your every lazy shortcut is frowned on by only real people, and it is only real people that think you are a complete moron. Just a message board. Just a message board. Just a… Well you get the point. _pats you on your head_ ---
**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2004, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/103 "2004-03-12T21:11:06Z")
That should read 44,000 members, and… Just a message board… An INFORMAL message board at that… ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2004, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/104 "2004-03-12T21:34:50Z")
The capital letter thing _is_ important. It’s the first thing one notices on seeing your post. Despite what you may feel it makes reading posts harder and looks like either lazy typing or the “leet” writing of an angry teenager. But, since you are, no doubt, out with your freinds right now, you can read this when you get back. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2004, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/105 "2004-03-12T21:36:05Z")
> [@a\_gherkin](#): > > i’m finding it difficult to put into words how much i hate you Ilsa :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Just in case: :rolleyes: Oh, did I mention: :rolleyes: ? ( :rolleyes: )[sub]Just for good measure.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![gluteus\_maximus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f17d59/32.png) [@gluteus\_maximus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gluteus_maximus)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2004, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/106 "2004-03-12T21:47:08Z")
> [@a\_gherkin](#): > > i’m finding it difficult to put into words how much i hate you Ilsa, perhaps you could help me as you have such a superior grasp of the english language, you too gluteus, i’m having real trouble, please help… Oh, hell! I was just going to leave you wallowing in your feeble helplessness, so I could gloat and gloat, but now **Ilsa\_Lund** ’s gone and responded to your plea, so, I guess I should, too. Ready? Spread your arms out horizontally at your sides, like a big eagle. Now, repeat: **gluteus maximus** (or **Ilsa\_Lund** ), I hate you THIS MUCH!!! :rolleyes: You’re welcome. Don’t mention it. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![a\_gherkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@a\_gherkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a_gherkin)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2004, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/107 "2004-03-12T22:09:45Z")
I dont hate you Gluteus, i dont really hate Ilsa, i just dont understand why you guys started flaming us for taking part in a thread which didnt affect you. As far as im concerned, Ilsa’s theory of spirits not existing is just as true as many people’s opinion tht they do exist. It pisses me off that he sould talk as though his theory is the only way to think, open your mind, mate, life is more exiting that way. Dope. ---
**Author:** ![gluteus\_maximus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f17d59/32.png) [@gluteus\_maximus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gluteus_maximus)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2004, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/108 "2004-03-12T22:36:40Z")
If you go back and read this thread from the beginning… no, wait, on second thought, don’t do that, just take my word for it… the first page and two-thirds of the second were about everything _but_ you. Then, you came in here and invited us to toy with you. You can go ahead and hate me if you want. I won’t feel it. If your beliefs were as solid as you claim, you wouldn’t care what others think or say about your beliefs any more than you care what we say about your typing (although I wish you did care more about your typing). There’s a cliche about hot kitchens that you may have heard. It’s a rare occurence that a Pit thread-starter apologizes because the Pittee whined. As you’ve just experienced, it’s usually quite the opposite. ---
**Author:** ![a\_gherkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@a\_gherkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a_gherkin)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2004, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/109 "2004-03-12T22:44:20Z")
No, no, no. This entire thread was about me from the very beginning. Ilsa claims that I was dumb to enter my post where i did (GQ), and he very clearly stated that my OP was dumb (or stupid, or obviant of something or other) I think that concerns me. It was my original thread, i feel that concerns me and also Ilsa was rude for absolutely no reason to other dopers, which should concern everyone. Finally, I havn’t appologised to Ilsa, i wouldnt dream of it, as far as i am concerned he is a piece of shit, i just don’t hate him, that’s all. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2004, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/110 "2004-03-12T23:16:48Z")
> [@a\_gherkin](#): > > No, no, no. This entire thread was about me from the very beginning. Ilsa claims that I was dumb to enter my post where i did (GQ), and he very clearly stated that my OP was dumb (or stupid, or obviant of something or other) I think that concerns me. It was my original thread, i feel that concerns me and also Ilsa was rude for absolutely no reason to other dopers, which should concern everyone. Finally, I havn’t appologised to Ilsa, i wouldnt dream of it, as far as i am concerned he is a piece of shit, i just don’t hate him, that’s all. Where was I rude to another doper without cause? ---
**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2004, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/111 "2004-03-12T23:52:27Z")
> [@a\_gherkin](#): > > No, no, no. This entire thread was about me from the very beginning. \ Well, the OP was about you, and then after that a significant portion of the responses generally seemed to be that **Ilsa** was taking your minor mistake way too seriously. You could have just ignored this and let it sink and come out smelling pretty much OK, I’d say. And look, I say this as someone who has nothing against you whatsoever: If you want people to take your posts seriously around here, punctuate and use the fucking shift key. ---
**Author:** ![a\_gherkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@a\_gherkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a_gherkin)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/112 "2004-03-13T00:33:09Z")
There aint nothing wrong with the way i smell. I happen to be wearing a rather expensive fragrance from the house of Ralph Lauren! My punctuation was fine throughout, i just didnt use shift, no biggie. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/113 "2004-03-13T01:49:43Z")
> [@a\_gherkin](#): > > As far as im concerned, Ilsa’s theory of spirits not existing is just as true as many people’s opinion tht they do exist. It pisses me off that he sould talk as though his theory is the only way to think, open your mind, mate, life is more exiting that way. Dope. You do understand that “There are spirits” and “There are not spirits” cannot both be equally true, right? Either there are spirits, or there aren’t. This is entirely independent of how many people believein them. I assume, however, that what you were trying to say was something along the lines of “Both theories are equally valid, because we cannot disprove either of them.” Unfortunetly, this is also untrue, as the evidence for the supernatural is entirely based on eyewitness accounts, which are notoriously unreliable, can almost universally be explained through natural phenomena, and fly in the face of pretty much everything we know about physics. A person can be open minded, and still acknowledge that the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence stands four square against the exsistence of the supernatural. On the other hand, insisting on that ghosts exsist just because you want them to exsist is pretty much the definition of a closed mind. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/114 "2004-03-13T15:05:48Z")
> [@a\_gherkin](#): > > My punctuation was fine throughout, i just didnt use shift, no biggie. It is no biggie, to you. To the vast majority of Dopers, it is a big deal. Do a search of Pit threads. Recently, somebody started a thread ranting at criticism of his use of u instead of you. The thread went on for pages. It may be acceptable to type in all capitals, or all lowercase, use leet, u, and such in Hillary Duff chat groups. It is not acceptable here. ---
**Author:** ![a\_gherkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@a\_gherkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a_gherkin)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/115 "2004-03-13T16:46:23Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > It is no biggie, to you. To the vast majority of Dopers, it is a big deal… It is not acceptable here. Are you the same people that got pissed off when Janet Jackson got her tits out at the Superbowl? ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/116 "2004-03-13T16:54:25Z")
> [@a\_gherkin](#): > > Are you the same people that got pissed off when Janet Jackson got her tits out at the Superbowl? I see. You’ve been trading on the CBOT. You had to take delivery on a “moron” future, and now you’re trying to unload your dumptruck full of dumbass on the open market. ---
**Author:** ![a\_gherkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f6c823/32.png) [@a\_gherkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a_gherkin)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/117 "2004-03-13T16:57:36Z")
> [@Ilsa\_Lund](#): > > I see. You’ve been trading on the CBOT. You had to take delivery on a “moron” future, and now you’re trying to unload your dumptruck full of dumbass on the open market. I admit my last comment was stupid, but no more so than this entire thread started by your good self! ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/118 "2004-03-13T17:13:04Z")
Why is this thread running in two forums? (Here and GQ) ---
**Author:** ![gluteus\_maximus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f17d59/32.png) [@gluteus\_maximus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gluteus_maximus)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/119 "2004-03-13T17:34:45Z")
In Which I Attempt to Let **a\_gherkin** Have the Last Word: 😉 > [@a\_gherkin](#): > > I admit my last comment was stupid! :eek: _**BOO![COLOR=White][SIZE=7]~?**_[/SIZE][/COLOR] ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2004, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002/120 "2004-03-13T17:37:06Z")
> [@Lobsang](#): > > Why is this thread running in two forums? (Here and GQ) Read the OP of each. The identical titles are misleading, but they are about different topics. This one is complaining about the [other one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=243600) being in the _right_ forum. **Ilsa** says that the subject of ghostal existance is a closed question, and therefore can receive a factual answer; it is not open to debate. It’s a fact: Whether you can debate that is open to question. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-a-spirit-ever-been-captured-on-camera/233002.md?page=7)