Yeah, because if he ever got elected, we’d be “Gored at the pump” and be paying, like, $2.50/gal. for gas. FUCK THAT! OK, so I’m probaly the only one that recalls W’s 2000 campagne ads.
Gore is the only potential candidate I can get excited about. I voted for Gore unenthusiastically in 2000, but since then he’s become a man I can really admire. Does that mean he has a chance? I don’t know. But, frankly, I don’t see anyone that really does have a chance.
Whatever chance he does have, in my opinion, depends on his keeping his post-2000 public persona – smart, hard, and devastating. If he goes back to the equivocating pandering-to-the-right D.L.C. mode of 2000, he’s dead.
Probably so, but it’s gotten a lot harder recently to call him wrong. Have you read it?
I’d like to have him as President, sure, but not a Presidential candidate.
He’s got the ‘Stink of the Loser’ on him. That’s bad.
Personally, I would love to have him in there. What have you got against eight more years of prosperity?
As for things he’s said coming back to haunt him…no matter how vanilla a candidate you manage to scrounge, they’ll have said something that can be used against them. I’d be happy to just have a candidate say, “Yeah, I did say that. I meant it then and I meant it now. Your point?”.
Sadly, I think that Gore is the only one out there with the balls to do that. Because I really don’t think he cares about the power…and those are the kinds of people who should have it.
-Joe, would be bad with power
He’s actually making some sense now, which is exactly what the problem is. I have absolutley no faith in him. If this is the ‘real Al Gore’ wtf where we watching in 2000? IMO he needs to be working policy, vision and strategy for the dems and lending vocal support of whoever wins in the primaries.
Also a recent south park about him was pretty good. I’m super serial.
It’s even worse that he got the ‘Stink of the Sore Loser’ on him.
Well he won the popular vote and the electoral was a close thing, so the stink isn’t as bad as it could’ve been. He also has the fact that the Clinton years seem a lot better now to most people then they did in 2000, so he might have the opposite effect of “Clinton Fatigue” that people talked about during his first presidential run (err…not his first, the 2000 one). Also as shown by several people on this board, he seems to have figured out a lot of the charisma problems that held him back.
But I agree he hasn’t shown any sign of wanting it. Nixion spent several years working for the Republican party machine after his presidential loss, keeping his hand in the game, as it were. Gore seems to be enjoying his semi-retirement, doing the lecture circuit, working on projects that interest him, making occasional speeches around election time, but otherwise staying out of the fray. Can’t say I blame him.
Face it, no matter what candidate the Democrats put up, the Republicans will find a “stink” of some kind. Paying attention to that kind of stuff serves only to let the Republicans choose whom they’re going to run against. The Democrats have to find their balls and face the flak.
Clinton is polling higher than Bush in a recent CNN poll. It may be a strong point for Gore.
And to a lesser extent, any Dem who can tie himself to the Clinton legacy. Certainly good for Hillary at least.
Allow me to predict the term “Clinton Nostalgia” will be coined as a buzz word by talking heads in 2008.
(Also, looking at the article, even on the question of who is more honest Bush is just breaking even with Clinton. Ouch!)
He managed to deliberately step out of Clinton’s glow and ride his painfully evident public-speaking ineptitude to defeat by George Bush in 2000, when everybody thought Bush was too much of a moron to tie his own shoes, much less run a country. Gore has a giant L tattooed to his forehead now. Ain’t gonna happen.
I think being out of politics for the last eight years is a big plus–he won’t have to do Kerry’s dance about whether or not he supported the war. He also has the benefit a lot of people see in Hillary–he’s a known quanity, not likely to get SwiftBoated.
The Gore we’ve seen in the last six years is nothing like the media creation that ran in 2000. I do believe it to be the real Gore; for one thing, I saw Gore’s stump speech in 1996 and he was a lot closer to Gore 2.0 than Gore 1.0. For another, for the last six years he has had nothing to lose by being himself.
The problem is that the Gore of 2000 is still the Gore the public remembers, since only the small fraction of us who pay attention have seen his transformation. You also have to wonder if he would respond to the pressure the same way he did back then–by playing into it.
Gore would probably be a great President, and Gore 2.0 could potentially be a dangerous candidate if he kept up his forceful demeanor and didn’t let the right-wingers and the media define him again. He’d be a much better choice than Hillary.
I thnk Al Gore would be a tremendous president. He doesn’t have the stigma of “liberal” as some would unjustly apply to Hillary. He’s a moderate environmentally aware person that we associate with one of the great eight year administrations of history. If Dick Nixon could dust himself off after 1960 (and the questionable Illinois vote) and run eight years later, then surely Al Gore can rise from the ashes of the questionable Florida result of 2000 and run eight years later. Number one job has to be winning back all those Jewish Pat Buchanan voters in south Florida. I think a Gore-Richardson ticket would be unbeatable. The only thing I would like more than a Gore victory in 2008 would be if Jimmy Carter would run again.
I’ve been impressed, almost against my will, by what Gore has done in the last year or two. Still, there’s plenty of footage of him looking spastic and sweaty while making various speeches since 2001. And even though he’s looking better and better on the electoral front, he’s really gotta go on a diet. Seriously, the dude is plump right now. Clinton Nostalgia could help him, and the new movie might help a bit too. I’ve read elsewhere that he’s made a killing on Google stock and could pretty much self-finance another presidential campaign (at least in the primaries).
Interesting to read all these comparisons of Gore '08 to Nixon '68. The funny thing is, IIRC, a very young Al Gore once sat on then-Vice President Nixon’s lap.
Hard to find one on the Pub side, either. I mean, McCain has a lot of appeal, but he’s so old.
:mad: Horseshit. In fighting the outcome of that race Gore set an example Kerry should have followed.
How about a Gore/Clinton ticket?
That is your opinion, but many people thing what Al Gore did was wrong and cheapining the position of president. It is usally a very gentlemanly competition, well at least it appears to be at the end. One person conceded victory to the other and congratulated them. Which Al Gore did, which may have done prematurally - then recalled it this is not a gentilmanly thing to do, but understandable under certain circumstances. Then after he looses he request a recount, which he lost again, then he requested another recount, and he lost again and again and again (note only requesting recounts in areas that were likely to give him more votes, never in areas that are likely to give W more votes - would YOU like to be elected like this?!?!) till the court finally had to stop him. If that’s not a sore looser and a crybaby I don’t know what is. And don’t think the country didn’t notice this.
One good thing about Kerry is he didn’t pull something like that as it is a very bad precident to set, a even worse one to continue.
Now if there were some serious issues I would support these efforts, but you better be darn sure that these issues are real and you can prove them to the public - he failed in this and the stink remains.
- sorry
And IIRC, and please correct me if this is incorrect Al Gore tryed to get millitary ballots disqualified due to the abstentee ballots from US bases are not post marked.
So we have one who wants to win by selectivally recounting only areas where it would help him
AND
(if true) Tryed to disqualify military votes which would most liekly go against him.
AND you want this guy as president?!?! When he wants to win so badly he will cheat.
Nope the stink stays on, horseshit would smell better.