# Has any athlete ever betrayed their team? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 18, 2006, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-athlete-ever-betrayed-their-team/361130 "2006-06-18T01:30:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-athlete-ever-betrayed-their-team/361130/21 "2006-06-18T16:31:39Z")
[QUOTE=cmkeller] I don’t get it. Did Barbados score twice in the extra time? I thought the whole point was that if Barbados won by only one goal, Grenada would advance. [/QUOTE] I think you missed part of the story. [quote] The rules in effect at the time specified that if the score were tied at the end of regulation play, the match would continue into sudden-death extra time and the first team to score during extra time would be considered a two-goal winner.[/quote/ ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-athlete-ever-betrayed-their-team/361130/22 "2006-06-18T16:31:46Z")
[QUOTE=cmkeller] I don’t get it. Did Barbados score twice in the extra time? I thought the whole point was that if Barbados won by only one goal, Grenada would advance. [/QUOTE] From the quote: > [@](#): > > The rules in effect at the time specified that if the score were tied at the end of regulation play, the match would continue into sudden-death extra time and the first team to score during extra time would be considered a **two-goal winner**. So any win in overtime was the same as winning by two goals in regulation. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-athlete-ever-betrayed-their-team/361130/23 "2006-06-18T16:32:31Z")
[QUOTE=mhendo] (b) Mistakes like that aren’t what the OP was asking about. No reasonable interpretation of O’Donnell’s performance could possibly interpret it as intentional betrayal. [/QUOTE] I disagree, but as I’ve done this many a time with **Weirddave** I’m not prepared to go into super detail on it. Let’s just say when the least-intercepted quarterback in history by passing percentage throws 2 picks to a nobody on game-changing drives on the same called play something looks a bit more than fishy. ---
**Author:** ![Capa84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8edcca/32.png) [@Capa84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capa84)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-athlete-ever-betrayed-their-team/361130/24 "2006-06-18T18:13:47Z")
[QUOTE=Airman Doors, USAF] I disagree, but as I’ve done this many a time with **Weirddave** I’m not prepared to go into super detail on it. Let’s just say when the least-intercepted quarterback in history by passing percentage throws 2 picks to a nobody on game-changing drives on the same called play something looks a bit more than fishy. [/QUOTE] blooops I meant Super Bowl 30…and that was kind of toungue in cheek, but to an unknowledgeable bystander, the situation would look very suspicious. 1)O’donnell threw very few interceptions. 2)O’donnell was a UFA that year, and would be leaving the Steelers 3)After the first quarter, the Steelers dominated both sides of the ball…the only reason they lost the game was the 2 picks Odonnell threw, both thrown directly to a CB who didn’t even have to move, and both with no WR anywhere in sight. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-athlete-ever-betrayed-their-team/361130/25 "2006-06-18T19:44:59Z")
[QUOTE=Capa84] blooops I meant Super Bowl 30…and that was kind of toungue in cheek, but to an unknowledgeable bystander, the situation would look very suspicious. 1)O’donnell threw very few interceptions. 2)O’donnell was a UFA that year, and would be leaving the Steelers 3)After the first quarter, the Steelers dominated both sides of the ball…the only reason they lost the game was the 2 picks Odonnell threw, both thrown directly to a CB who didn’t even have to move, and both with no WR anywhere in sight. [/QUOTE] And he tried to say that someone didn’t run the right pattern. ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-athlete-ever-betrayed-their-team/361130/26 "2006-06-18T19:53:30Z")
[QUOTE=MaxTheVool] Has there ever been a situation where a high-level athelete had some conflict with his team, and, in the middle of a game, turned coat and started helping the opposition? In soccer, for instance, it would be TRIVIAL for someone to score a goal on his own team on purpose, which would likely be decisive… But I’ve never heard of such a thing happening. [/QUOTE] Trivial? Trivial? 😕 Surely you jest ---
**Author:** ![PastAllReason](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f07891/32.png) [@PastAllReason](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastAllReason)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-athlete-ever-betrayed-their-team/361130/27 "2006-06-18T20:19:17Z")
[QUOTE=chowder] > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Has there ever been a situation where a high-level athelete had some conflict with his team, and, in the middle of a game, turned coat and started helping the opposition? In soccer, for instance, it would be TRIVIAL for someone to score a goal on his own team on purpose, which would likely be decisive… But I’ve never heard of such a thing happening.Trivial? Trivial? 😕 Surely you jest [/QUOTE] Indeed. In the first World Cup that I seriously followed, a player from Colombia, Andres Escobar, \*\*accidentally \*\* scored an own goal in a match against the US, a game which the US ultimately won 2-1 over Colombia. Colombia was eliminated from the Cup. On his return home, (and before the World Cup was even over) Escobar was murdered, shot numerous times, and reportedly because of the own goal. ---
**Author:** ![Szlater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Szlater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Szlater)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-athlete-ever-betrayed-their-team/361130/28 "2006-06-18T20:30:24Z")
[QUOTE=PastAllReason] Indeed. In the first World Cup that I seriously followed, a player from Colombia, Andres Escobar, \*\*accidentally \*\* scored an own goal in a match against the US, a game which the US ultimately won 2-1 over Colombia. Colombia was eliminated from the Cup. On his return home, (and before the World Cup was even over) Escobar was murdered, shot numerous times, and reportedly because of the own goal. [/QUOTE] > [@Alan Hansen](#): > > He deserves to be shot for that own goal! The BBC later apologised. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-athlete-ever-betrayed-their-team/361130.md?page=1)