# Has any efforts at genocide been completely "successful"?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [January 19, 2005, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-efforts-at-genocide-been-completely-successful/285487 "2005-01-19T02:52:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-efforts-at-genocide-been-completely-successful/285487/21 "2005-01-20T13:56:27Z")

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> [@Slithy Tove](#):
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> I doubt it, since people are even more adept at fucking as they are at killing.

That explains why we haven’t wipe ourselves out, and gives me some hope for the future.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-efforts-at-genocide-been-completely-successful/285487/22 "2005-01-20T19:14:44Z")

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You don’t hear much about the [Amalekites](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2017:14&version=9;&version=9;) these days.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-efforts-at-genocide-been-completely-successful/285487/23 "2005-01-20T21:43:14Z")

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Ahem.

I konw this isn’t _certain_, but how about Neanderthals?

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-efforts-at-genocide-been-completely-successful/285487/24 "2005-01-20T21:49:09Z")

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I’d say the Holocaust was damn near 100% “effective” in Germany. Doubtless a handful of Jewish people survived, but the thing that struck me when I lived in Germany for a year as a student, was that the Jews were conspicuous by their absence. They simply weren’t there as a significant cultural or demographic element, although bigger cities still do have a few active synagogues. Jewish members of my student group were advised that the nearest synagogue was in a city two hundred miles away. The Nazis really did “succeed” at extirpating an entire people, language, religion, and culture from their soil.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-efforts-at-genocide-been-completely-successful/285487/25 "2005-01-21T03:27:14Z")

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> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#):
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> Ahem.
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> I konw this isn’t _certain_, but how about Neanderthals?

It’s far less than uncertain. It’s pure speculation for which there is no actual evidence at all.

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**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-efforts-at-genocide-been-completely-successful/285487/26 "2005-01-21T03:39:50Z")

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Baltimore was originally the homeland of two tribes, the Balts, and the Morons. I was there recently, and the Balts appear to be extinct.

Tris

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**Author:** ![tygerbryght](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9a28c/32.png) [@tygerbryght](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tygerbryght)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-efforts-at-genocide-been-completely-successful/285487/27 "2005-01-21T23:34:23Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Not entirely true. The last full-blooded Tasmanian actually died in 1888 (the 1876 date was due to a well-publicized death of one of the group), and, according to Lyndall Ryan’s _The Aboriginal Tasmanians_ (mentioned in See Robert Hughes’s **The Fatal Shore** \*, there are still surviving Tasmanian aborigines (about 2500 is the figure Hughes uses), descendents of the original Tasmanians and whites.  
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> \*Read it. It’s one of the great history books.

I concur. It’s been a long time since I read **The Fatal Shore** , but it is an impressive account (Caution: not for those with weak stomachs; he described treatment that made me flinch, and I’ve got a pretty strong stomach.). The author is Australian, and, IIRC, spent several years doing research before writing it.

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