# Has any government ever addressed rude behavior by LOCALS at tourist destinations?

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**Created:** [June 15, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-government-ever-addressed-rude-behavior-by-locals-at-tourist-destinations/1002928 "2024-06-15T23:01:42Z")\
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Free yoga class? Or pay to play?

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-government-ever-addressed-rude-behavior-by-locals-at-tourist-destinations/1002928/62 "2024-06-17T22:55:05Z")

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The yoga is usually free, I think, but they accept donations. I guess it depends on the yoga instructor.

Other stuff like hosting events (picnics, anniversaries, bonfires, corporate gatherings, etc), fitness classes, volleyball, dog training, etc. usually isn’t.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-government-ever-addressed-rude-behavior-by-locals-at-tourist-destinations/1002928/63 "2024-06-18T12:17:59Z")

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From what I understand the reason that Flanders ended up in Belgium and the rest of the Dutch speaking areas were in the Netherlands wasn’t some sort of cultural division, but rather a purely political one. So Flemish is essentially a dialect of Dutch, and Flanders is _very_ similar to the Netherlands otherwise. It was kind of shocking to see how similar, in fact.

I was in my mind lumping Flanders in with the Netherlands, and distinguishing the whole area from the French-speaking part of Belgium, that’s all.

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> [@bump](#):
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> From what I understand the reason that Flanders ended up in Belgium and the rest of the Dutch speaking areas were in the Netherlands wasn’t some sort of cultural division, but rather a purely political one.

Political, and also religious. Basically, Flanders is Catholic while the Netherlands are Protestant. I don’t know if they division was because of the religious differences, or whether the religious differences were created by the division.

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Religion was a big part, but also ethnic differences in the Kingdom of the Netherlands, dominated by the Dutch prior to the Belgian Revolution and secession.

> **[Belgian Revolution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_Revolution)**
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> The Belgian Revolution (French: Révolution belge, Dutch: Belgische Revolutie/opstand/omwenteling) was the conflict which led to the secession of the southern provinces (mainly the former Southern Netherlands) from the United Kingdom of the Netherlands and the establishment of an independent Kingdom of Belgium.
> The people of the south were mainly Flemings and Walloons. Both peoples were traditionally Roman Catholic as contrasted with Protestant-dominated (Dutch Reformed) people of the north. Ma...

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-government-ever-addressed-rude-behavior-by-locals-at-tourist-destinations/1002928/66 "2024-06-18T13:49:54Z")

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Goes back to the 16th century wars of independence, in which the southern (Flanders) provinces made peace with Spain and remained under the Spanish throne until traded to the (equally Catholic) Austrian Hapsburgs at the settlement of the War of the Spanish Succession in 1714. Incorporating Flanders into the Kingdom of the Netherlands came in the settlement of the Napoleonic wars, and lasted barely 15 years.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-government-ever-addressed-rude-behavior-by-locals-at-tourist-destinations/1002928/67 "2024-06-18T15:14:48Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Basically, Flanders is Catholic while the Netherlands are Protestant.

You’d think so, but in fact the largest Christian denomination in the Netherlands is Catholicism. Official Dutch government doctrine favoured Protestantism for centuries, and that’s probably where the impression of the Netherlands as a firmly Protestant country comes from. But in the general population the Catholic faith always remained present and, demographically, outnumbers the Protestants.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-government-ever-addressed-rude-behavior-by-locals-at-tourist-destinations/1002928/68 "2024-06-18T20:29:13Z")

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It’s just like that scene in SATC when Carrie and Miranda sneak nearby and try to take part in a yoga boot camp class held openly in a park. But it wasn’t free and they got busted!

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Also happened to the main character and her best friend in _Bridesmaids_.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-government-ever-addressed-rude-behavior-by-locals-at-tourist-destinations/1002928/70 "2024-06-18T21:38:01Z")

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Now wait a minute.

Maybe that’s the one I’m thinking of, saw that movie it was great.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2024, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-any-government-ever-addressed-rude-behavior-by-locals-at-tourist-destinations/1002928/71 "2024-06-19T17:00:36Z")

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And some more angry locals:

> **[‘Beware of locals, we are angry’: the Mallorcans battling tourists to protect...](https://www.theguardian.com/travel/article/2024/jun/18/beware-of-locals-we-are-angry-the-mallorcans-battling-tourists-to-protect-their-beautiful-beach)**
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> What happens when a beach goes viral on social media? Thousands of people start visiting, leaving tampons, toilet paper and countless cigarette butts ...

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How have so many humans turned into lemmings, willing to follow any recommendation that scrolls across their device?

Guess what sheeple: The top 300 beaches on the planet are not materially different from each other. They’re all friggin’ fantastic. _You_ don’t have to go to one specific beach that some random influencer got excited about after flipping a coin and then the algorithms amplified into being The BESEST!!!11!! Beach EVAR!!!111!!!

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> The top 300 beaches on the planet are not materially different from each other. They’re all friggin’ fantastic.

Yep! Our favorite beaches are our favorites mostly because of memories acquired over the years.

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My favorite beaches are the ones nobody knows about.

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Here’s an excerpt from _All the Trouble in the World_ by PJ O’Rourke, in a chapter about an environmental conference in Rio de Janeiro in 1991:

> And Brazilians, in honor of the Earth Summit, had done a wonderful job of improving this already-splendid environment. They rounded up all the street kids, homeless people, muggers, thieves, beggars, and pickpockets, and then … and then something. “Where are they?” I asked a woman who owns an art gallery in Copacabana.
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> “The government has shipped them all away,” she said.
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> “But where?”
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> “Oh,” she said, “very far from you.” Squads of soldiers in full combat gear were guarding every intersection, bridge overpass, and public park. The Cariocas were ecstatic. “You see, I have my jewelry on,” said the art dealer. “And I can wear my new gym shoes-people used to be robbed for their gym shoes.”

P. J. O’Rourke. All the Trouble in the World: The Lighter Side of Overpopulation, Famine, Ecological Disaster, Ethnic Hatred, Plague, and Poverty (p. 220). Kindle Edition.

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> My favorite beaches are the ones nobody knows about

Okay, there’s a tiny island called Pinel that is a nature reserve. It is a short boat ride from the Saint Martin Cul de Sac. For 10€ you get a round-trip ferry ride there. _But_, it’s a beach everyone knows about.

Instead, we spend the 10€ on kayak rental and paddle over, with a side trip to a teeny tiny island that has “the smallest beach in the Caribbean”. The beach is just big enough for two adults to hang out. There are skinks on the island that eagerly took crumbs of cheese from our fingers.

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