# Has anybody ever gotten a bigger head faster for less reason than Joe the Plumber? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 25, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552 "2008-10-25T20:20:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/41 "2008-10-26T03:13:06Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Why, because you’re a Palin supporter? No because you are an Obama supporter. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/42 "2008-10-26T03:35:41Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > No because you are an Obama supporter. Let’s compare credentials: Obama: [ul][li]Columbia[/li][li]Magna cum Laude from Harvard Law[/li][li]President of the Harvard Law Review[/li][li]12 years as a professor of Constitutional law[/li][li]Civil rights attorney[/li][li]Illinois State Senator[/li][li]United States Senator[/li][li]Author of two best selling memoirs[/li][li]Beat the biggest political machine in national politics to win the Democratic nomination for President.[/ul][/li] Fucking Palin: [ul][li]Bounced around enough community colleges for enough years to finally cobble together a liberal arts degree.[/li][li]Was a failed, part-time mayor of a meth lab community in a remote Alaskan wilderness[/li][li]was briefly the Governor of state the size of Austin Texas, during which her most notable accomplishment has been being found guilty of ethics violations.[/li][li]Was recklessly selected to be the running mate of the Republican candidate for President because of her looks and her extreme social views.[/ul][/li] I would also add that Obama had to overcome the challenge of growing up poor and black. The above listed items are just what’s on paper. I don’t think even you could possibly argue with the undeniable intellectual disparity between the two. Obama is brilliant. Palin is a numbskull. Trying to compare Obama’s qualifications to Palin’s is ludicrous and makes you look stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/43 "2008-10-26T05:54:38Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > What did the last one do? The name rings some kind of bell… She has a huge ass and I think she is/was friends with Paris Hilton. Yup, that’s what she’s famous for. More the ass, though. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/44 "2008-10-26T06:08:06Z")
No, you’re thinking of Janet Reno. ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/45 "2008-10-26T06:29:20Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > And Ashley Todd can be his costar. > > Bowachickawowwow… Oh, _yuck_! Pretty sure nobody is gonna buy that DVD! ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/46 "2008-10-26T07:25:01Z")
Joe the Plumber lives in a cigar box under my bed. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/47 "2008-10-26T15:54:47Z")
> [@neutron\_star](#): > > Oh, _yuck_! Pretty sure nobody is gonna buy that DVD! It’ll be a B porno for sure. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/48 "2008-10-26T23:19:57Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Let’s compare credentials: > > … > Trying to compare Obama’s qualifications to Palin’s is ludicrous and makes you look stupid. No, see, the problem is that Rand and other right-wingers speak and read a different language. The reason you can’t get through to them is because of how they see the printed word. Example, what you wrote and what we all see: [quote=“Diogenes\_the\_Cynic, post:42, topic:469552”] Obama: [ul][li]Columbia[/li][li]Magna cum Laude from Harvard Law[/li][li]President of the Harvard Law Review[/li][li]12 years as a professor of Constitutional law[/li][li]Civil rights attorney[/li][li]Illinois State Senator[/li][li]United States Senator[/li][li]Author of two best selling memoirs[/li][li]Beat the biggest political machine in national politics to win the Democratic nomination for President.[/ul] [/li][/QUOTE] What they actually see: [quote=“Diogenes\_the\_Cynic, post:42, topic:469552”] Obama: [ul][li]Xpkinvus[/li][li]Nsfms vin Ks Jsifr gtpn Jdtbstf Jde[/li][li]Otrdifrny og yhr Jstbstf Kse Trbire[/li][li]12 urstd sd s otogrddot og Vondyiyuyionsl kse[/ul] [/li][/QUOTE] …and so on. It’s a specific form of dyslexia, and we should feel sorry for them. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/49 "2008-10-26T23:23:15Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > No because you are an Obama supporter. Shut the fuck up, you fucking troll. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/50 "2008-10-26T23:32:08Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Shut the fuck up, you fucking troll. Keep calling me names and I’ll be forced to invoke the “rubber and glue” rule on your ass. ---
**Author:** ![wmfellows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c2a13f/32.png) [@wmfellows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wmfellows)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/51 "2008-10-26T23:35:23Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Let’s compare credentials: > > Obama: > [ul][li]Columbia[/li][li]Magna cum Laude from Harvard Law[/li][li]President of the Harvard Law Review[/li][li]12 years as a professor of Constitutional law[/li][li]Civil rights attorney[/li][li]Illinois State Senator[/li][li]United States Senator[/li][li]Author of two best selling memoirs[/li][li]Beat the biggest political machine in national politics to win the Democratic nomination for President.[/ul][/li] > Fucking Palin: > [ul][li]Bounced around enough community colleges for enough years to finally cobble together a liberal arts degree.[/li][li]Was a failed, part-time mayor of a meth lab community in a remote Alaskan wilderness[/li][li]was briefly the Governor of state the size of Austin Texas, during which her most notable accomplishment has been being found guilty of ethics violations.[/li][li]Was recklessly selected to be the running mate of the Republican candidate for President because of her looks and her extreme social views.[/ul][/li] > I would also add that Obama had to overcome the challenge of growing up poor and black. > > The above listed items are just what’s on paper. I don’t think even you could possibly argue with the undeniable intellectual disparity between the two. Obama is brilliant. Palin is a numbskull. > > Trying to compare Obama’s qualifications to Palin’s is ludicrous and makes you look stupid. You know you have an unpleasant habit of being precisely what you complain about. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/52 "2008-10-26T23:43:28Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I would also add that Obama had to overcome the challenge of growing up poor and black. Come on Dio, if Obama gave Palin 10 and they played to 11, he’d still whup her ass. No need to make shit up too. Obama’s childhood was very clearly middle class and while he may had to live frugally for a while to cover the bills for his prep school, he was never poor. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/53 "2008-10-26T23:47:41Z")
Why was he on food stamps then? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/54 "2008-10-26T23:55:26Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Why was he on food stamps then? Um, Toot was a wellfare queen? Just guessin’. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f14d63/32.png) [@Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jesus_Harold_Christ)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/56 "2008-10-27T00:08:40Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Why was he on food stamps then? Was _he_ on food stamps? Obama told Joe Klein that his mom was on food stamps while he was going to a prep school (living with grandparents) and she was getting a PhD. [www.time.com/time/magazine/0,9171,1546362,00.html](http://www.time.com/time/magazine/0,9171,1546362,00.html) ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/57 "2008-10-27T00:41:21Z")
> [@Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](#): > > Was _he_ on food stamps? Obama told Joe Klein that his mom was on food stamps while he was going to a prep school (living with grandparents) and she was getting a PhD. > > [www.time.com/time/magazine/0,9171,1546362,00.html](http://www.time.com/time/magazine/0,9171,1546362,00.html) He’s also said that he and his mother “occasionally had to turn to food stamps” when he was growing up. I googled for the quote, but “Obama food stamps” turns up so much right wing filth that it was too depressing to delve any deeper. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/58 "2008-10-27T01:08:04Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > He’s also said that he and his mother “occasionally had to turn to food stamps” when he was growing up. > > I googled for the quote, but “Obama food stamps” turns up so much right wing filth that it was too depressing to delve any deeper. I googled the same sites and got quickly discouraged, but that seems to be Harold’s point. Obama didn’t live exclusively with his mother for any extensive amount of time growing up. It’s a stump point that is true enough, but not really reality. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/59 "2008-10-27T01:10:05Z")
“Has anybody ever gotten a bigger head faster for less reason” I would nominate you DtC, when you joined the Dope. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2008, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/60 "2008-11-02T00:18:22Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > This caught my eye: > > So they don’t like him because he’s an “elitist” and they don’t like him because he’s “very average”. Doesn’t leave much. It sounds to me like he was disappointed that Obama didn’t talk down to him with intellectual gibberish so he could then complain to Fox how he was mistreated. The guy gives douchebags a bad name. Based on what I’ve seen in checking out the German and Dutch newspapers online, the anti-elitist attitude is portrayed as being even more strident that it is here, and possibly more strident than it actually is. It was disconcerting to read a Dutch newspaper report of how Obama had been branded by some here as ‘a professor’ and a terrorist friend. Oh my god, a professor is coming! Whatever shall we do…? Interestingly, another report on the Dutch website said that many Americans who plan to vote for Obama perceive him as more left wing than he actually is. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2008, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552/61 "2008-11-02T00:20:29Z")
I don’t see how Joe’s run for Congress can fail, if he has the imprimatur of The Washington Times. Is the WT actually connected with the Moonies? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anybody-ever-gotten-a-bigger-head-faster-for-less-reason-than-joe-the-plumber/469552.md?page=4)