# Has anyone else seen "Spit on Your Grave" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 8, 2011, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612 "2011-02-08T03:05:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/21 "2011-02-08T17:12:06Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > …About 20 minutes in Webster’s Dictionary came in to take a picture for their entry on “awkward”. I laughed. mmm ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/22 "2011-02-08T19:52:08Z")
I remember when Siskel and Ebert named the original the Worst Movie of 1980. ---
**Author:** ![beartato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@beartato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beartato)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/23 "2011-02-08T19:56:48Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > The mistake I Spit on Your Grave makes is the over the top explicit rape and then the bloody gore during the revenge murders. This was almost more gory then Texas Chainsaw Massacre. The story might have worked if they had made this a thriller with less explicit scenes and better actors. The gore during the revenge isn’t the worst part, to me. It’s made to be a gory movie, some people like those. It’s the highly sexualized and explicit rape scene that shatters all the filmmaker’s lies about a it being a pro-women movie. ---
**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/24 "2011-02-08T20:39:14Z")
> [@beartato](#): > > It’s the highly sexualized and explicit rape scene that shatters all the filmmaker’s lies about a it being a pro-women movie. “What’s all this, then?” ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/25 "2011-02-08T20:51:02Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > The original or that new one? My question stands. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/26 "2011-02-08T22:15:22Z")
I saw this as a revenge movie. The woman didn’t take the rape lying down. She didn’t crawl off to a mental ward. She got even and killed everyone of those S.O.B.'s that were involved. (At least, I think she killed them all. It’s been a decade since I saw it. She definitely kicked ass.) YMMV, but for me she more than got even. I don’t see this lady living in fear or jumping every time she hears a strange sound. She took charge of the situation and regained her self-respect. Sure, it’s not an easy movie to watch. It’s one of the more graphic rape scenes I’ve seen. It’s a little too close to real life for my comfort. I think it was mistake making it that graphic. The movie would have a much bigger audience with less shown and a more subtle directorial approach. > [@beartato](#): > > The gore during the revenge isn’t the worst part, to me. It’s made to be a gory movie, some people like those. It’s the highly sexualized and explicit rape scene that shatters all the filmmaker’s lies about a it being a pro-women movie. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/27 "2011-02-08T23:18:14Z")
Haven’t actually seen the thing thought I did really enjoy Carol J. Clover’s take on it in her book [Men, Women & Chainsaws](http://books.google.ca/books?id=x4fLaCLD11MC&printsec=frontcover&dq=men,+women+%26+chainsaws+rape+revenge&source=bl&ots=93AdvtSfgW&sig=UZuwhFG5weOsL1WY1qsiIVHZX8Y&hl=en&ei=1s5RTemeJcrGgAeE8eGlCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false) (IIRC she compares it to movies like \*The Accused \*which, at first glance, are less crude and sexist but usually involve women getting revenge through men or the system). ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/28 "2011-02-08T23:59:25Z")
On thing I did think was interesting about the remake’s poster was that they [shaved about 15 lbs off the lead](http://videogum.com/200841/i-spit-on-your-grave-poster/movies/movie-posters/), at least in the artwork. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/29 "2011-02-09T00:40:44Z")
> [@beartato](#): > > The gore during the revenge isn’t the worst part, to me. It’s made to be a gory movie, some people like those. It’s the highly sexualized and explicit rape scene that shatters all the filmmaker’s lies about a it being a pro-women movie. I’ve never seen this movie or actually any of the Rape/Revenge grindhouse genre–but the supportive intellectual examinations and papers written on them and this one in particular usually take the track of–“if you found these brutal depictions of rape and violence tittilating it’s by design. You are punished later by showing the results of these actions.” Hey you like that rape! Watch this rapist get his dick cut off in the tub! You still like that rape? Huh, do ya!?!?!? ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/30 "2011-02-09T04:46:00Z")
I don’t know why such a noise is made about this movie being so pro-woman because a woman takes revenge on her rapists. _I Spit on Your Grave_ is from 1978, but in 1976 there was a movie with the same plot (although much less disgusting) called _The House by the Lake_ where the woman took out all the bad guys too. It stars Brenda Vaccaro, and I didn’t try to walk out of that one. ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/31 "2011-02-09T04:53:34Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > \ Sure, it’s not an easy movie to watch. It’s one of the more graphic rape scenes I’ve seen. It’s a little too close to real life for my comfort. I think it was mistake making it that graphic. The movie would have a much bigger audience with less shown and a more subtle directorial approach. If you found the rape scenes sexually exciting, maybe you should look for therapy. Personnally, I found it refreshing to see violence that realistic. I think the main problem about the so-called “violence in the movies” is that it is so toned down that people think that it is what “real” violence looks and sound like, so they more tempted to use it. How often have you heard people say after hearing a gun firing : “I can’t believe how loud it was” ? ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_A.Robrin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sam_a.robrin/32/14497_2.png) [@Sam\_A.Robrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_A.Robrin)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/32 "2011-02-09T06:41:37Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > I don’t know why such a noise is made about this movie being so pro-woman because a woman takes revenge on her rapists. Because it behooved a lot of gender-hustlers to reduce potential members of the power base to nothing more than their designated sex. If the apprentice myrmidons regarded themselves as women first and individuals hardly at all, they’d be less likely to think for themselves, and thereby better candidates for said hustlers’ hoped-for hives. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/33 "2011-02-09T08:45:28Z")
Umm, WTF? ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_A.Robrin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sam_a.robrin/32/14497_2.png) [@Sam\_A.Robrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_A.Robrin)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/34 "2011-02-10T06:04:17Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > Umm, WTF? That you’ll probably get more out of the movie (if you like that sort of thing) if you regard the protagonist as an individual person, and not simply as a member of a gender. Though most of us have been conditioned to do the latter, for reasons of (see above). ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/35 "2011-02-16T03:11:19Z")
> [@Sam\_A.Robrin](#): > > That you’ll probably get more out of the movie (if you like that sort of thing) if you regard the protagonist as an individual person, and not simply as a member of a gender. Though most of us have been conditioned to do the latter, for reasons of (see above). Don’t attend too many screenwriting classes, do you? ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/36 "2011-02-16T05:52:25Z")
I found it very hard to watch, the rape scene was disturbingly nasty. I also had to wonder on the (supposed) psychology of the good ol’ boys - so were they planning on murdering her and dumping the body the whole while? If not, how did they expect to get away with it? Yes…I realise that it’s a movie, but that was a big plot hole to me. The revenge scenes were depraved…particularly the “so you like to watch”. And to actually see such a common threat carried out with the garden shears…hoo boy… I would also be interested to know…if you are “titallated” by the rape scene (not in the form of "I will watch this as spank material though) does that indicate that you really need therapy? I know that rape is a really common fantasy - does that mean those that hold it need help? ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_A.Robrin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sam_a.robrin/32/14497_2.png) [@Sam\_A.Robrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_A.Robrin)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2011, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/37 "2011-02-16T06:17:31Z")
> [@Cat\_Fight](#): > > Don’t attend too many screenwriting classes, do you? No, but I _have_ written screenplays. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/38 "2011-02-19T01:47:51Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > When we first got a VCR, my Dad would often stop at the video store (Remember those? It was a local shop and everything!) and bring home movies for us. He knew I liked horror movies so he brought home the original I Spit on Your Grave. He put in in and we watched it. About 20 minutes in Webster’s Dictionary came in to take a picture for their entry on “awkward”. > > Definitely not a film to watch with your folks. Heh- that’s what my brother said about “Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.”. In the interest of not spoiling it, we didn’t tell him much about it, especially THE scene. He watched it in the theater with our parents. 😃 Sorry, bro… scarred for life. ---
**Author:** ![Heyoka13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Heyoka13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heyoka13)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/39 "2011-02-19T01:55:19Z")
45 minute rape scene has to be some kind of record for a movie. Ebert hated, hated, hated that movie. The DVD issue seems to imply the producers were sincere in believing the revenge aspect of the movie ameliorated the rape. One of the rapists was somewhat developmentally disabled which added a bizarre note to an already unusual film. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612/40 "2011-02-19T02:03:51Z")
> [@detop](#): > > If you found the rape scenes sexually exciting, maybe you should look for therapy. Not unless he feels ashamed of having the fantasies. I used to think like you do. Then I actually got lots of therapy, although for other things. But along the way I learned that my wacky fantasies were perfectly ok. So it turned out I didn’t need therapy for the fantasies at all, I needed it to scrub away the feeling that there was something wrong with me for having those fantasies in the first place. Because there wasn’t. And isn’t. And most people would find the inside of my head an incredibly shocking place. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-else-seen-spit-on-your-grave/570612.md?page=3)