# Has anyone ever missed an extra point in football? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [November 24, 2002, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415 "2002-11-24T00:45:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![whitetho](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whitetho/32/1059_2.png) [@whitetho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whitetho)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/21 "2002-11-24T09:21:28Z")
Some what tangentially, I vaugely remember a Maryland college football game many years ago where the fans tore down the goalposts before the game ended, and Maryland was forced to try a two-point conversion after its last touchdown. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/22 "2002-11-24T13:08:57Z")
When I was in HS (that is around 50 years) our team didn’t have a place kicker and just tried to score (1 point only in those days) on the ground. I remember one game we won 18-4! ---
**Author:** ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/23 "2002-11-24T14:51:08Z")
The University of North Texas kicker missed both PAT attempts in the first half of yesterday’s game. (Actually, they were blocked …) Then he went and hit a 45-yard field goal at the end of the half. Weird … ---
**Author:** ![flex727](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/258eb7/32.png) [@flex727](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flex727)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/24 "2002-11-24T17:01:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by aahala \* > **If I’ve added things up right, 8 out of 739 NFL kicking point after attempts have failed so far this year. Just over 1%.** What’s amazing is how often that missed point results in the loss of the game by 1 point! ---
**Author:** ![Bob55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Bob55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob55)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/25 "2002-11-24T17:38:56Z")
Just watch the Gators, we miss more extra points than we make it seems. And we miss the important ones, like the extra point in overtime against Alabama 3 years ago - it cost us the game. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/26 "2002-11-24T18:50:18Z")
> [@](#): > > When I was in HS (that is around 50 years) our team didn’t have a place kicker and just tried to score (1 point only in those days) on the ground. I remember one game we won 18-4! You guys got safetied twice? Forget the missed PATs, how often does _that_ happen?? Happy ---
**Author:** ![aahala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e4f/32.png) [@aahala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aahala)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/27 "2002-11-24T19:01:46Z")
I’ve been unable to pull up anything concrete on HS or college PAT, but here’s some for stats from NFL, subject to my addition errors. For 2001 season, 19 of 1026 were missed. 22 kickers were perfect, 14 missed one, one two and one missed three. For the eleven NFL weeks prior to today, the missed attempts occured in weekend 2,5,9(2 games),10(2) and 11. There has been only one game in which the miss was clearly adverse, week two Minnesota missed two PAT and lost 45-39 to Buffalo in overtime. In week ten, Pittsburgh and Atlanta had a 34-34 OT tie, Pittsburgh missed a PAT, the next score they went for two and were succesful. This is the game Pittsburgh lead 34-17 with about 11 minutes to play. The other misses:Cleveland who lost to Pittsburg 23-20,Miami who beat New England 26-16,Jets who beat Detroit 31-14,San Diego who lost to Jets 44-13 and NYG who beat Minn 27-20. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/28 "2002-11-24T19:03:52Z")
I think that team didn’t make any extra points and just scored three touchdowns. As for two safeties in a game, I believe both Oklahoma and NC State both had two safeties in their games last week. A few years back, Arizona State got three against Nebraska. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/29 "2002-11-24T20:21:41Z")
The 'Skins just missed an extra point against St. Louie. Holder missed the snap. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/30 "2002-11-24T20:40:23Z")
Gopher: If you had seen the Indiana University football team play last year, you wouldn’t have bothered to ask the question. The Hoosiers missed something like 7-9 PAT attempts as we had the worst !@#$%^ kicking game in Division I football. Damn, I’m glad that knob Cameron is out as coach. ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Mahma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@Joe\_Mahma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Mahma)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/31 "2002-11-24T21:34:05Z")
I’ve seen missed kicks several times, and I don’t watch much football at all. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/32 "2002-11-24T21:37:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe Mahma \* > \*\*I’ve seen missed kicks several times, and I don’t watch much football at all. \*\* I believe you confuse field goals for point after attempts. Haj ---
**Author:** ![Myrr21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Myrr21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrr21)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2002, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/33 "2002-11-24T23:59:26Z")
Well, the Steelers missed one this weekend, and there may have been others that I didn’t see: > **[Bengals vs. Steelers - Game Recap - November 24, 2002 - ESPN](https://www.espn.com/nfl/recap?gameId=221124023)** > > Get a recap of the Cincinnati Bengals vs. Pittsburgh Steelers football game. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/34 "2002-11-25T00:22:53Z")
Falcons missed one today too ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/35 "2002-11-25T01:07:31Z")
For those scoring at home, Indiana was 23 of 28 on kicking extra points in 2002. The Hoosiers were 2 for 5 when going for two. Two kickers, Mangum of Texas and Brown of Nebraska had the most attempts without a miss with 44. Both have more games to play. I haven’t figured out which team missed the most PATs by kicking, but it may be Kansas State, which was 61 for 69 kicking PATs. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@PatrickM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickM)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/36 "2002-11-25T01:31:18Z")
The place-kick PAT in pro football is so routine and automatic that it ought to be eliminated. Just make touchdowns worth 7 points. That’s more an IMHO and not a fact, of course, but what the heck. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@PatrickM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickM)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/37 "2002-11-25T01:31:33Z")
The place-kick PAT in pro football is so routine and automatic that it ought to be eliminated. Just make touchdowns worth 7 points. That’s more an IMHO and not a fact, of course, but what the heck. ---
**Author:** ![Cabbage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@Cabbage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabbage)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/38 "2002-11-25T02:22:38Z")
> [@](#): > > That record is currently held by Jason Elam of the Denver Broncos, at 344 straight, and counting. > [@](#): > > You DO realize that now that you have actually written about Elam’s record he’s gonna go and miss one Sunday night against the Colts. My god man - have you no inkling of the powers we possess ?? > > - one pissed off Broncos fan Elam just missed one. Spooky. ---
**Author:** ![Blunt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Blunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blunt)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/39 "2002-11-25T02:22:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Flymaster \* > \*\*That record is currently held by Jason Elam of the Denver Broncos, at 344 straight, and counting. > > Second is Norm Johnson, at 301. > > Elam is 368 for 369 in his career, and is the all time leader, for those with more than 200 kicks. \*\* > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by NothingMan \* > \*\*_Dammit Flymaster_ !! > > You DO realize that now that you have actually written about Elam’s record he’s gonna go and miss one Sunday night against the Colts. My god man - have you no inkling of the powers we possess ?? > > - one pissed off Broncos fan \*\* That is amazing. Elam just missed an extra point, ending his streak. ---
**Author:** ![Vic\_Ferrari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/dbc845/32.png) [@Vic\_Ferrari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vic_Ferrari)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2002, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415/40 "2002-11-25T02:23:19Z")
Five minutes ago Jason Elam of the Denver Broncos missed the extra point. In his defense, he used to be among the best in the league, but he hasn’t been the same after leg injuries over the past few years. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-missed-an-extra-point-in-football/138415.md?page=3)