# Has anyone ever pitted WillFarnaby ?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 5, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085 "2018-03-05T22:10:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/1 "2018-03-05T22:10:57Z")

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> [@Trump's ongoing collusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trumps-ongoing-collusion/809196/37):
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> Thank goodness for collusion. If only “Great Leaders” through history would have colluded, the masses would have been spared much torment.
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> The idea that the charges in the indictment amount to anything more than trivial polliticking is a slap in the face to the armies of highly paid campaign consultants, seasoned “operatives”, and mass-broadcast pundits who participated in the election.
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> This is probably why there is so much anxiety in the mainstream and leftist media and those plugged into it. The idea that they and those like them are not pulling every string is definitely an existential threat to their dreams of domination. The “experts” think they were upstaged by the Unanointed.
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> The truth is, the vast majority of people just don’t care about what the political “experts” think.

We have the general jist of your peculiar economic philosophy, but where do you stand on Trump? The final three paragraphs seem fawning enough, it’s the 1st paragraph that confuses me.

Can you restate the teaching of your 1st paragraph with little words? Gods forfend that we deign to put words in your mouth.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/2 "2018-03-05T22:25:38Z")

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He’s an irate and crazy person. I find it pretty pointless to respond to him – he seems to bear considerable enmity towards anyone who he feels is working for the enemy (the enemy being any government or military organization).

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/3 "2018-03-05T22:48:18Z")

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Ask him about the Civil War and get some popcorn.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/4 "2018-03-05T22:50:21Z")

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He’s on the border of being delusional and there’s no point if engaging him. His basic stand seems to be that when reality collides with his theories, then everyone should ignore reality and listen to Will’s theories. Even if the rest of the world chose to embrace Farnabysim, we’d have a hard time doing so; Will has never been able to clearly articulate what his theories are. He just complains that the world isn’t in compliance with them.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/5 "2018-03-05T22:59:08Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Ask him about the Civil War and get some popcorn.

Too dangerous. I find him intensely boring, so there would be a significant risk of choking on a kernel when I dozed off in mid-bite.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/6 "2018-03-05T23:04:03Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Farnabysim.

Like ew, ick.\*

**Flyer** sock?  
\*and I just came out of the shower too

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/7 "2018-03-05T23:45:57Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Ask him about the Civil War and get some popcorn.

According to him, the country went down the tubes because the wrong side won the Civil War. Or it would have went down the tubes, if it hadn’t already went down the tubes when they illegally repealed the Articles of Confederation and replaced it with the tyranny of the Constitution.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/8 "2018-03-05T23:57:45Z")

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So when exactly is he going to Farnaby, anyway?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/9 "2018-03-05T23:59:23Z")

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My first encounter with him was in this [thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=690258) – he seems to be some sort of sovereign citizen type. They’re always good for a laugh.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/10 "2018-03-06T00:06:06Z")

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I always thought of him as someone who fell in love with Libertarianism when he was 15 and never out-grew it, getting angrier and angrier the more and more reality diverged from his Sacred Beliefs. Eventually he slid into full-bore delusion and senility.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/11 "2018-03-06T00:15:12Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> His basic stand seems to be that when reality collides with his theories, then everyone should ignore reality and listen to Will’s theories.

> [@silenus](#):
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> I always thought of him as someone who fell in love with Libertarianism …

Checks out.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/12 "2018-03-06T00:17:24Z")

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He’s a slight variation on Starving Artist so you may as well pick just one to pit, in the name of efficiency.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/13 "2018-03-06T01:22:15Z")

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WillFarnaby is a delusional paranoid crank. I bet there’s tin foil in his windows and a well stocked cellar, come the revolution commrades.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/14 "2018-03-06T01:54:05Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> So when exactly is he going to Farnaby, anyway?

farn·a·by

/farn **ə** bē/

_verb_

To troll message boards while spouting conspiracy theory rhetoric in the tone of a demented decrepit asthmatic parrot (with a very bad case of halitosis).

“Will liked to Farnaby the Straight Dope Message Board when he had partaken a bit too much of that Ol’ Smoky Moonshine.”

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/15 "2018-03-06T05:15:10Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> WillFarnaby is a delusional paranoid crank. I bet there’s tin foil in his windows and a well stocked cellar, come the revolution commrades.

Oh dear … do you think he’s smart enough to ground the tin foil so it works? …

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/16 "2018-03-06T05:35:40Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> He’s a slight variation on Starving Artist so you may as well pick just one to pit, in the name of efficiency.

I don’t see it. I might disagree with most of what Starving Artist says but at least what he says seems grounded in the real world.

Starving Artist might say that he supports Trump because Trump will stick it to the liberals. Now I might feel that that’s a poor goal to pursue but I will concede that voting for Trump probably will see the liberals getting stuck.

Ask Will who he supported in the 2016 election and his response will be completely off the wall. He might not acknowledge that Trump or Clinton were even running or that an election occurred.

In a [current thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=850542) on racism, Will appears to be denying the existence of white privilege. Now other people in the thread denied it as well. But their reasons were things like saying that racism no longer exists or that black people now have as much power as white people or that it’s all a liberal myth. Will denied the existence of white privilege because [he doesn’t believe white people exist](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20827701&postcount=26).

Now how are you supposed to have a meaningful discussion of racial issues with somebody who will come up with something like that?

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/17 "2018-03-06T06:50:46Z")

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These types of threads are why characters like Will Farnaby exist.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/18 "2018-03-06T06:58:58Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I always thought of him as someone who fell in love with Libertarianism when he was 15 and never out-grew it, {…}

He shoulda picked the book with the orcs in it, amiright?

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/19 "2018-03-06T12:28:10Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I don’t see it. I might disagree with most of what Starving Artist says but at least what he says seems grounded in the real world.

The similarity I’ve noted is the robotic repetition of their core assertions, regardless of any and all mitigating facts others bring to light. Occasionally, they can be pushed into saying things that are completely ridiculous but call them on it, and they’ll express sincere belief in the obvious factuality of the ridiculous thing they’ve just said. Both of them are unsinkable rubber ducks in this regard, and pitting one is as fruitless as pitting the other.

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**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-ever-pitted-willfarnaby/810085/20 "2018-03-06T13:46:23Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I don’t see it. I might disagree with most of what Starving Artist says but at least what he says seems grounded in the real world.  
> . Will denied the existence of white privilege because [he doesn’t believe white people exist](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/show-post.php?p=20827701&postcount=26).
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> Now how are you supposed to have a meaningful discussion of racial issues with somebody who will come up with something like that?

Hi **Nemo**. That could be an ironic poke at the **very** common argument that racial prejudice is ridiculous because race does not exist. Or it could be real agreement with that position; I won’t try to analyze whether that stance is relevant in the linked thread—which I didn’t read.

I agree with your point that SA and WillF are different critters

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