# Has anyone provided proof the election was stolen? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 25, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329 "2021-09-25T14:00:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/221 "2021-10-03T08:16:35Z")
I think if THE REST of you would SOMETIMES include words in all caps, WE might begin to find common GROUND. ---
**Author:** ![dolfinwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@dolfinwriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolfinwriter)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/222 "2021-10-03T08:26:50Z")
> **Tiresome wasn't he?** > > > [@Smapti](#): > > > > Why not? Why didn’t the Trump-appointed AG, the Trump-appointed deputy AG, and the Trump-appointed FBI director investigate the blatant crimes being committed against Trump? > > Dude, that’s what the rest of us have been asking for five years now. > > Yes we do think they are part of the deep state. > > > [@Smapti](#): > > > > why was Trump so foolish as to appoint them in the first place > > So by your logic, George Washington was inept, incompetent and unfit for office for supporting Benedict Arnold, even when Congress passed Arnold over for promotion. Think about what you’re saying, don’t just parrot the left wing media narrative. > > That said, we have also been asking that for five years now. You seem to make the assumption that us “right-wingers” think Republican Presidents are as incapable of making mistakes as you lefties think democrat presidents are. > > Let me put that another way… I often ask democrat friends this question and no one ever gives me a straight answer. Don’t you think it’s odd that the left wing media NEVER has a single positive to say about a President Bush or a President Reagan, or a President Trump. EVER!!! > > Is anybody but a Hitler, Stalin, Chariman Mao, Polpot, Saddam Hussein every truly so bad and evil that they can’t _ONCE IN A WHILE_ say something nice about him? > > Don’t answer that–I already know y’all think Trump is _WORSE_ than Hitler, Stalin, Chariman Mao, Polpot, Saddam Hussein. > > If I’m mistaken, then tell me when and what they said. > > By the same token, they almost NEVER criticize a Clinton or Obama, and when they do, it’s just softball criticism (“Did you see that awful dress that Michelle wore?” Ok, you’re right; they would have never said that.) > > So if you subscribe to the ying and yang at all, you must believe there is a bit of good in the worst of us and a bit of bad in the best of us. None of us are perfect. But an alien watching our left wing news media would believe that all democrats ARE perfect and that all republicans are completely and simultaneously absolutely moronic, evil, corrupt, stupid, inept, greedy, selfish… > > The _PROOF_ that Trump is an idiot is that he appointed people who turned out to be traitors (from a shark pool _FULL_ of traitors no less…) > > _Sarah Palin_ was a hypocrite because her _DAUGHTER_ got pregnant out of wedlock. > > And on it goes. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/223 "2021-10-03T08:37:37Z")
So where’s the fucking proof already? Trump lost, because he got fewer votes. Disprove that. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/224 "2021-10-03T08:37:49Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > Dude, that’s what the rest of us have been asking for five years now. > > Yes we do think they are part of the deep state. [https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/524/tumblr\_o16n2kBlpX1ta3qyvo1\_1280.jpg](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/524/tumblr_o16n2kBlpX1ta3qyvo1_1280.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/225 "2021-10-03T08:40:03Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > So where’s the fucking proof already? You don’t get it. The fact that there’s no proof IS the proof of how seamless and perfect the election-rigging was! ---
**Author:** ![dolfinwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@dolfinwriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolfinwriter)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/226 "2021-10-03T08:53:00Z")
> **hiding one more post** > > That’s a great representation of the Mueller Russia Collusion hoax investigation: > [Mueller finds no proof of Trump collusion with Russia; AG Barr says evidence 'not sufficient' to prosecute](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mueller-report-conclusions-trump-congress-attorney-general-william-barr-n986611) > > The far right wing media outlet, NBC, reports that Mueller could find no proof. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/227 "2021-10-03T08:56:50Z")
That is merely a story about what Barr said. Fuck me. “…Attorney General William Barr told Congress on Sunday, while also announcing that he found insufficient evidence to pursue the matter further.” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/228 "2021-10-03T08:59:34Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > That’s a great representation of the Mueller Russia Collusion hoax investigation Ah, yes, the _argumentum ad Ego flexilis es gluten_ approach. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/229 "2021-10-03T09:01:30Z")
Did you miss the “Barr says” bit? I bet NBC also reported that Trump said COVID was going to disappear. It wasn’t because it was going to disappear. They were just reporting what the liar in chief said. Just like in the piece you quoted they were reporting what the deputy liar in chief said. He was lying about what the Mueller repot said. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/230 "2021-10-03T09:03:56Z")
Here’s a link to the actual report, for those interested. > **[Read and search the full Mueller report | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/18/politics/full-mueller-report-pdf/index.html)** > > Read and download the full redacted Mueller report PDF released by the Department of Justice. The report covers the two-year investigation into Russia interference in the 2016 US presidential election. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/231 "2021-10-03T09:14:53Z")
He’s back! Still with not a shred of evidence. Still with outlandish claims, but nothing to support these claims. Still whining about how Trump lost (and he really did lose). Are the lizard people involved? How about the Jews? Inquiring minds want to know! Alternately, you could try facing reality - that maybe Trump really did lose the election, fair and square. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/232 "2021-10-03T09:17:53Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Are the lizard people involved? How about the Jews? Inquiring minds want to know! Clearly it was the RAND Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people, under the supervision of the reverse vampires, in a fiendish plot to eliminate the meal of dinner. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/233 "2021-10-03T12:41:47Z")
I had completely forgotten about the goddam saucer people. Will this nightmare never end? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/234 "2021-10-03T12:53:23Z")
The TRUTH is that too many Trump voters are just classic sore losers that can’t admit that they lost - and lost big. People HATED Trump. Lots and lots of people hated Trump. All the people in my neighborhood hate Trump. Everyone I work with hates Trump. Even though I live in a purple state, 95% of the people I know hate Trump. People that are not political and never voted before came out in droves to vote because they HATE Trump. Trump just didn’t get it. It didn’t get that when you call voters names and try to alienate them, it really motivates them to vote against you. People like doing things that bring them pleasure, and banding together to vote Trump out just to watch him whine and cry and slink away from the White House like a fat orange whipped puppy - now THAT was pleasure at its finest! Please keep fighting, though. Because whenever Trump fights, Trump loses and watching Trump lose never gets old. Every day, every audit, we are finding out that he lost bigger than we ever thought he did. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/235 "2021-10-03T12:53:50Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > You don’t know a thing about me so you have no idea what a dumb question that is. You know only what you have been fed to believe about “right-wingers”. THen answer the fucking question… ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/236 "2021-10-03T13:22:14Z")
And I can’t help but find amusement in the disbelief and flailing of the remaining die hard Trumpers. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/237 "2021-10-03T13:25:09Z")
I keep wanting to make a “We’re going to lose so much, you’re going to get tired of losing” joke, but then they don’t actually seem to be getting tired of losing… ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/238 "2021-10-03T13:32:58Z")
Since you came back, I have a few questions for you. Do you think Mike Pence is a traitor that was secretly working for Joe Biden? Do you think Bill Barr is traitor that was secretly working for Biden? Rod Rosenstein? Do you think Brian Kemp is a traitor that was secretly working for Joe Biden? Do you think John Roberts is a traitor that was secretly working for Joe Biden? Do you think the other conservatives on the Supreme Court are secretly working for Joe Biden? If Joe Biden is a mastermind that can steal the Presidency with the help of all these Republicans secretly working for him, why couldn’t he have stolen a few more Senate seats? Seriously? He’s an evil genius that pulled off the greatest crime in history, but he stopped _just_ short of grabbing enough power to get legislation passed? Do you think God wanted Trump to win the 2020 election? If you think God wanted Trump to win in 2020, why didn’t God just fix it so he won? Do you really think Joe Biden is such an effective evil genius that he outsmarted God? If your mother wanted to attend Trump University to learn to get rich quick in real estate, would you think this was a good idea? If the Trump U tuition would drain her retirement accounts and cause her to rack up unmanageable debt, would you still think it was a good idea? If she lost all her money to Trump University, would you blame her or Donald Trump? Are you OK with people that scam the elderly out of their life savings as long as it’s not someone you know? Do you think Mike Lindell and Rudy Guiliani appear sane? What destroys brain cells faster - crack and religious obsession, or whiskey and Soros obsession? Which one of them will run out of brain cells first? Is your popcorn stale yet? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/239 "2021-10-03T14:09:02Z")
And a few more questions: If Democrats can’t win an election without cheating, did Obama cheat in 2012? In 2008? Did Clinton cheat in 1992? Carter in 1976? FDR in 1932? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/240 "2021-10-03T14:30:43Z")
dolfinwriter either can’t or won’t tell the difference between a story about what Bill Barr says the Mueller report found, vs a story about what the Mueller report found. I’m not banging my head against this wall any more. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329.md?page=13)