# Has anyone provided proof the election was stolen? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 25, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329 "2021-09-25T14:00:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/241 "2021-10-03T14:34:08Z")
@Ann_Hedonia, I love ya, but your experience is totally different than mine. I live in one of the reddest states (Kentucky) and am only one of a handful of people I know personally who voted for Biden. Most people here worship at the altars of Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell. I can’t say that I’ve noticed anyone actually _liking_ Mike Pence, even among the Republicans I know in Indiana (I live just outside of Louisville, right on the Ohio River that separates the two states). But Trump? He’s big here. He’s like Jesus in Italy. And I constantly have to hear how great he is, how Biden is both a criminal mastermind who rigged and election, _and_ a feeble old dementia patient who shows less life than [Bernie Lomax](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098627/). It’s absolutely maddening. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/242 "2021-10-03T15:03:36Z")
My Wife and I are kinda solitary people. We live mountain rural. When we got new ‘neighbors’ about 1/4 mile away, we discovered that they where from Texas. Alarms go off in my head. But they hate Trump as much as we do. We are good friends. It’s crazy. Trump supporters see this very stupid criminal and traitor as some sort of savior. The only explanation I can come up with is that Trump supporters want to be just like him. A liar, cheater and crook that gets away with it. They freaking admire him. Or they are dumb as a bag of hammers. Takes a little of both really. What was the last truthful thing that Trump said? Anybody? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/243 "2021-10-03T15:06:39Z")
Oh wait, he did say that everyone should get the COVID vaccine. And he was booed. His supporters are just lovely. I’ll continue with our solitary lifestyle thank you very much. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/244 "2021-10-03T15:39:41Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > So that he is sprouting anti-semite CT Bullshit is evident to all? I take it you have never heard of dog whistles. I am unaware that Soros has ever been mentioned in terms of the “stolen” election. And I never ever used “Nazi”, you did. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/245 "2021-10-03T16:31:42Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > And somehow calling him a nazi and telling him to to piss off is not ok? Sure it is – in the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/246 "2021-10-03T16:51:08Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > But… One key difference is that they cheated a lot harder in 2020. Yes, they thought they had it rigged for Hilary in 2016, and fell short. > … > The FBI has investigated 2016 ENDLESSLY and found JACK. Do you see a contradiction between these two statements? You claim there was cheating in the 2016 election, but the investigation found nothing. Maybe there wasn’t cheating? > [@dolfinwriter](#): > > Those who stole this election absolutely do not understand the heart of the American people, … Democrats’ ideas CANNOT win a fair election and they know it, so they must cheat. A thing that right winger believe is that they are the majority, and every other opinion isn’t real. In fact, Democrats outweigh Republicans by a comfortable majority. But the electoral system is badly flawed, and leads to Republicans being overrepresented in government. Notice that I don’t say that they ‘cheat’ because it is following the existing system. It is just that the existing system is biased in favour of Republicans. Without the bias in the system, the Republicans would lose every time. Are you aware, for instance, that there are millions of American citizens in US Territories, Puerto Rico, Guam, and others that don’t get to vote in Presidential elections, and aren’t represented by Senators. They do have Representatives. If you gave them Senators, and you should, then Republicans would never have a majority in the Senate. If you allowed them to participate in Presidential elections, you would never have a Republican as President. And the Electoral College system is fundamentally flawed, allowing Trump to win, while losing the popular vote. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/247 "2021-10-03T17:07:46Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > Democrats’ ideas CANNOT win a fair election and they know it, so they must cheat. More projection than a multiplex. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/248 "2021-10-03T17:14:06Z")
And he’s gone. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/249 "2021-10-03T17:51:43Z")
He is no doubt lamenting about how libruls are mean. Facts mean NOTHING to these people. Nothing at all. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/250 "2021-10-03T18:00:54Z")
Huh, he was belligerent, but I didn’t think he’d reached the ban point yet. Maybe preemptive, considering the writing on the wall? Anyway, it was a nice demonstration to the OP that the answer is still no, and will remain no. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/251 "2021-10-03T18:08:17Z")
Every time we get a new chew toy, it gets taken away. (Pout) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/252 "2021-10-03T18:14:13Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > …I didn’t think he’d reached the ban point yet. Without any warning or announcement, that usually means one thing. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/253 "2021-10-03T18:22:53Z")
I agree, unless he was a sock, banning unwarranted. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/254 "2021-10-03T18:56:20Z")
Oh, I’m not claiming my experience is typical, I know lots of people love Trump and that there are vast swathes of the nation that are “Trump Country”. My point was more along the lines of -you can’t judge the country by the people that surround you. There are Trump supporters that think there was a cheat because they don’t know any Biden supporters. I was just pointing out that there are people that don’t know many Trump supporters, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist. I’ve gotta admit, when I moved to a purple state I wasn’t thrilled about the possibility of dealing with Trump supporters and I was surprised at how blue my neighborhood is - I’m not saying there are no Trump supporters, but they are outnumbered enough that they mostly shut up, and the ones that don’t have a reputation as the neighborhood cranks, Of course this is probably due to the fact that I live in a city that has seen an influx of skilled jobs, and I live in a neighborhood that was developed less than 15 years ago. So almost everyone that lives here is moved here recently from somewhere else. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/257 "2021-10-03T19:28:15Z")
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/258 "2021-10-03T19:55:28Z")
The Deep State got to him. WE THE PEOPLE will find out the true facts! ---
**Author:** ![LilXMo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lilxmo/32/4225_2.png) [@LilXMo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilXMo)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/259 "2021-10-03T23:49:58Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > But like I said, most of you are too afraid to watch those things and give them an honest listen. You feel you must defend the left wing narrative that Trump is lying and unhinged. Some of you just hate Trump so much that you don’t CARE if the democrats cheated or if China interfered. You’re just glad your guy won. Good luck with that in the years ahead if they succeed in this coup. Eventually they will come for you too, because communists ALWAYS eventually eat their own. Why is asking you to provide proof that there was cheating a left wing narrative? The arguments you provide are the same on every platform where Trump supporters allege the election was stolen. Sorry, I’m too exhausted by the argument to dig up a link from my FB page. Maybe you can answer this: How could anyone steal an election where 120,000,000 Americans voted? How could thousands of poll workers - friends, family members, neighbors, volunteers, elected officials, folks with different political views - hide their involvement in the alleged treasonous activities you are espousing? People use social media to show what they eat, when they pick their nose, opinions about EVERYTHING, yet no one that I am aware (except guy who admitted using his deceased mother’s ballot to vote twice for Trump) has provided proof of election tampering. Can you imagine what social media would have looked like if there had been crooked activity? Or this: which states didn’t cheat? It isn’t media, China, communist or liberal brainwashing to request proof or even ask the above questions. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/260 "2021-10-03T23:55:16Z")
I’m very sorry to tell you this. I hope you’re sitting down. dolphinwriter got banned. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2021, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/261 "2021-10-03T23:59:30Z")
> [@LilXMo](#): > > How could anyone steal an election where 120,000,000 Americans voted? 80,000,000 of them were in on it. ---
**Author:** ![LilXMo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lilxmo/32/4225_2.png) [@LilXMo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilXMo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/262 "2021-10-04T00:08:19Z")
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