# Has anyone provided proof the election was stolen? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 25, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329 "2021-09-25T14:00:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/383 "2021-12-20T16:58:35Z")
Should’ve cut the tip off the strawberry instead. [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1092454153585082368/QNM6C86g_400x400.jpg) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1092454153585082368/QNM6C86g_400x400.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/384 "2021-12-21T14:52:58Z")
Now I have this image of a muppet leopard named Jerry Mander who talks about gentrifying Sesame Street (and wants to arrest Oscar for vagrancy). Every time Ernie comes around he aggressively licks his face. On a very special episode the grownups gently try to explain to Elmo why he shouldn’t be falling for Jerry’s tactics. That episode is sponsored by the letter Q. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/385 "2022-01-05T21:48:57Z")
Some enjoyable pushback. Nice to see them finally come out and confirm matters… [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/election-officials-rebut-claims-republican-led-arizona-review-trumps-2020-loss-2022-01-05/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/election-officials-rebut-claims-republican-led-arizona-review-trumps-2020-loss-2022-01-05/) > [@](#): > > While last year’s Republican-led review had already been widely discredited by election experts as biased and procedurally flawed, the report, titled “Correcting The Record,” marked the first detailed response by county officials. “We determined that nearly every finding included faulty analysis, inaccurate claims, misleading conclusions and a lack of understanding of federal and state election laws,” the report says of the audit, which Arizona Republican senators contracted out to a private company called Cyber Ninjas. According to the report, the county analysis identified 22 claims that were misleading, 41 that included flawed or misstated analysis and 13 that were demonstrably false. ---
**Author:** ![CC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@CC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CC)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/386 "2022-03-21T23:28:51Z")
Back to the OP, were any findings anywhere even moderately convincing as evidence of fraud? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/387 "2022-03-21T23:42:47Z")
Would ‘no’ work for you? It didn’t for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/388 "2022-03-22T09:54:34Z")
Did you read the thread that answered in detail the question you asked in the OP? Because the answer is still “no”. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/389 "2022-03-22T12:31:36Z")
Trump’s chief of staff, Mark Meadows, may have committed voter fraud. There’s a count of one, but it’s in the wrong direction for this thread. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/390 "2022-03-22T12:42:55Z")
> [@CC](#): > > Back to the OP, were any findings anywhere even moderately convincing as evidence of fraud? Well, let me ask you this; has Fox News run a huge, multi-part expose on the solid evidence of voter fraud? No, because there isn’t any. If there was honest-to-God evidence the 2020 election has been stolen, trust me, this isn’t a question you’d have to ask on an obscure message board. You’d know ALL about it. Even if you believe the “mainstream media” would deliberately ignore it, Fox and other conservative outlets and papers would be running the story nonstop until CNN and the like really had no choice but to run it too. Everyone would know the major actors and the details; it’d be water cooler conversation in every workplace. We’d already have 25 threads about it. It’d be as big a story in the USA as the Ukraine War. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/391 "2022-03-22T15:51:32Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > If there was honest-to-God evidence the 2020 election has been stolen, trust me, this isn’t a question you’d have to ask on an obscure message board. You’d know ALL about it. Even if you believe the “mainstream media” would deliberately ignore it, Fox and other conservative outlets and papers would be running the story nonstop until CNN and the like really had no choice but to run it too. Everyone would know the major actors and the details; it’d be water cooler conversation in every workplace. We’d already have 25 threads about it. It’d be as big a story in the USA as the Ukraine War. \ False in every way! People still believe the election was stolen, and people are still saying it was stolen, so it must have been stolen. Someone I like said something I want to hear - I don’t want to hear or read stuff I may disagree with. End of discussion.\ ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/392 "2022-03-22T16:16:35Z")
Only MyPillow Man’s packets have come close to proving evidence of fraud. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/393 "2022-03-22T19:04:22Z")
Many people are telling Faux News that the election was stolen. The best people, Top men. Who are these people? Really the best, amazing, patriots. [I believe completely without evidence that all Fox lawyers have severe drinking problems] ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/394 "2022-03-22T19:28:51Z")
I did have a veteran come up to me once and he said, with tears in his eyes, “Sir, the election was stolen.” ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/395 "2022-03-23T03:38:59Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Trump’s chief of staff, Mark Meadows, may have committed voter fraud. There’s a count of one, but it’s in the wrong direction for this thread. There were four people in The Villages, FL (big retirement community) who voted twice, once in Florida and once in whatever state they retired from and still own a house in. Pretty sure they were all Republicans, so they’re also in the wrong direction. These double voters were likely discovered through the Electronic Registration Information Center (ERIC), which gets voter info from about 30 member states plus other sources like Social Security and helps those states keep their voting records up to date by weeding out people who move to another state or die. Shortly after I heard about the four voters, I heard there’s a campaign in rightwing social media to get states to withdraw from ERIC. I think Florida will withdraw, but no worries. They now will have a spiffy new Election Police, which when not busy intimidating Blacks from voting, will catch these retiree double voters. I’m sure of it. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/396 "2022-03-23T10:39:49Z")
Yes. I have no doubt they will be right on those white retirees voting shenanigans. It is ironic (or, maybe not ironic at all), that right wing social media types are looking for states to get out of the system that actually did find some negligible number of illegal votes, when right wingers are pushing for new laws that will uncover nothing, but will make it harder for poor people and minorities to vote. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/397 "2022-03-23T10:48:54Z")
I posted this in another thread, but it’s more relevant here: I went to a luncheon last week where the guest speaker was the local supervisor of elections. It’s a Republican district, and he said twice that he was a “Reagan Republican”. The rest of the speech, however, was blasting the insane bullshit that he has faced from the right wing. He recounted death threats he’d received, and the racial slurs his chief assistant has endured. He specifically called out the misinformation from Fox News, and then asserted that he had become an expert at debunking election fraud myths. A place has “more votes than registered voters”? They were comparing 2020 votes with 2016 voter rolls. People were counting mail in ballots that had never been folded? He demonstrated how they often received back torn or stained ballots, and had to recreate them on clean ballots so that they could be counted. Vote totals changed after the polls closed? He explained (similar to discussions here) how mail in ballots were being counted in the days after the election, and because of Trump’s rhetoric they were heavily democratic, which means the changes were consistent with expectations. By the end, he was exasperated. Trump won this district, yet he’s still being bombarded with hostility, such as the mass duplicate emailing he sometimes gets. This is in Florida, by the way. Ground zero for the crazy, I’m afraid. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/398 "2022-03-23T15:44:09Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > It’s a Republican district, and he said twice that he was a “Reagan Republican”. And with all that bullshit, he’ll still stick with the crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/399 "2022-03-24T23:04:46Z")
[We’ve got ‘em!](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/23/debra-meadows-appears-have-filed-three-false-voter-forms/) Stranger ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/400 "2022-03-28T19:48:33Z")
What do you mean? Was there a point here? Can you copy and paste a paragraph? I think you mean this story: > **[Wife of Mark Meadows appears to have used invalid address on North Carolina...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/24/politics/debra-meadows-mark-north-carolina-voter-form/index.html)** > > Debra Meadows, the wife of former congressman and Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, signed voter forms attesting she resided at a Macon County, North Carolina, mobile home that reports indicate the couple never lived in. _Debra Meadows, the wife of [former congressman](https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/politics/mark-meadows-congress-trump-chief-of-staff/index.html) and Trump chief of staff [Mark Meadows](https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/02/politics/mark-meadows-election-fraud-liaison/index.html), signed voter forms attesting she resided at a Macon County, North Carolina, mobile home that [reports indicate the couple never lived in](https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/18/politics/mark-meadows-trump-aide-voter-north-carolina/index.html)._ _On registration forms, both Debra and Mark Meadows indicated their residency at the Scaly Mountain mobile home would begin September 20, 2020 – one day after their voter registration forms were dated._ ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2022, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/401 "2022-03-28T22:26:46Z")
Debra Meadows - “But I looked at it on Google Maps, It’s a valid address” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/402 "2022-03-28T23:10:59Z")
Reading the Dope I get the impression that the only voter fraud that exists come from Republicans. But I assumed that that was largely due to selection bias. That dopers gleefully to point out Republican hypocrisy but ignore malfeasance of their own party. But it turns out, nope, the Republicans really are the only ones committing fraud. > **[The Pattern of GOP Voter Fraud - The Bulwark](https://www.thebulwark.com/the-pattern-of-gop-voter-fraud/)** > > In case after case from 2020, it turns out that Republicans were the ones misbehaving at the ballot box. > The Heritage Foundation, the conservative think tank, maintains a public database of ballot-fraud cases. A review of the database reveals an astonishing fact: In _every_ listed indictment and conviction for voter fraud or other malfeasance in connection with the 2020 presidential general election, when the culprit’s political affiliation is known he or she turns out to be a Republican or “unabashed conservative.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329.md?page=21)