# Has anyone provided proof the election was stolen? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 25, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329 "2021-09-25T14:00:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/141 "2021-10-01T16:09:10Z")
The sad and disgusting thing is that there are something like 50 million American voters who believe exactly what this poster writes. And they’re probably every bit as open to changing their minds or admitting they’re wrong, too. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/142 "2021-10-01T16:14:02Z")
Here - even Fox News confirms what posters here have been saying…I guess facts really ARE left-leaning… > **[GOP Maricopa County audit confirms Biden 2020 victory in Arizona](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/maricopa-county-audit-concludes-similar-vote-total-to-2020-presidential-election)** > > Arizona Republicans concluded their audit of the 2020 presidential election Friday and said in a letter to the Attorney General that the review's overall tally matched results from November. _“Truth is truth, numbers are numbers,” Arizona Senate President Karen Fann said at a Senate hearing on the review from Maricopa County, which found the numbers from the audit were close to the numbers from the November election._ _The final report, conducted by the cybersecurity consulting firm Cyber Ninjas, contained allegations of possible impropriety related to mail-in balloting and duplicate ballots but confirmed that the forensic audit found more ballots in favor of Joe Biden and less for former President Donald Trump than in November._ ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/143 "2021-10-01T16:14:52Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Oh noes! He’s leaving? [Not the first time, either.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/119) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/144 "2021-10-01T16:29:13Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > You can stop replying here because I’m not coming back. I thought maybe there might be some people here with open minds, but this has turned out to be a complete waste of my time. Debunking your ridiculous claims is not done for _your_ benefit. But, if you want a more productive use of your time, then get out of your echo chamber and take a look at reality. Anyway, you’ve made the claim that you wouldn’t be back before, so I find it unlikely that you will not be back to share your “wisdom”, so see you next Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/145 "2021-10-01T16:29:55Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > You will all see that soon enough when your heroes start taking those perp walks for election fraud, tampering with evidence, conspiracy, in some cases treason, and I don’t even know what else Any hard dates? Didn’t think so. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/146 "2021-10-01T16:40:00Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Anyway, you’ve made the claim that you wouldn’t be back before, so I find it unlikely that you will not be back to share your “wisdom”, so see you next Thursday. There’s always another thread to defend Trump in. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/147 "2021-10-01T16:40:44Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > You can stop replying here because I’m not coming back. Is that a promise? The burden of proof argument was, for me, narrowly the silliest of the arguments posted. If you think the election officials made grievous errors, whether deliberately or not, the burden is proof is on those who make the accusation. So far, there has been zero proof offered. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/148 "2021-10-01T17:04:10Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > They have no been proven… You are correct. This time. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/149 "2021-10-01T17:16:31Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > Any hard dates? Probably a month and day but no year. Just like the pillow huckster. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/150 "2021-10-01T17:41:43Z")
And many of your “facts” (eg about mail ballots in other countries) have been shown to be proven falsehoods. Yet you ignore this. Why do you ignore your proven falsehoods? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/151 "2021-10-01T17:43:53Z")
Two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![dolfinwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@dolfinwriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolfinwriter)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/152 "2021-10-01T17:53:15Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > They have no been proven… > [@bobot](#): > > You are correct. This time. Oh look. Yay for you. You caught me in a typo, so I will correct it. They have NOW been proven in both Antrim Co. Michigan and Maricopa Co. Arizona. Have none of you read the TIME Magazine article where they _BRAGGED_ about how they stole the election? Except they said “But we’re not _CHEATING_; we’re _FORTIFYING_ the election.” Yeah, Biden totally had so much support that you had to _FORTIFY_ the election. I will agree with all of you one one thing. If the people of this country are not willing to stand up and demand that their legislatures conduct investigations and conduct audits and then prosecute lawbreakers, then they deserve the government that will result, which is one party, rigged elections and totalitarian control. You can see the totalitarianism starting already. And there are some on the left who get it. I was amazed to see Bill Maher finally pull his head out of his nether regions and start calling this out. He’s obviously smarter than I ever gave him credit for. He clearly knows that communists always, _ALWAYS_ eventually eat their own, and that if they succeed in this coup unchallenged, the communists will eventually come for him too. And they will come for you too. And by the way, don’t quote Fox News to any solid conservative. They turned traitor on election night and they’ve confirmed it a number of times since then. They are now no more reliable than CNN or MSDNC. > [@The\_Librarian](#): > > You were doing great until this. Yeah, that shoe fits pretty tight. How much is Soros paying you? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/153 "2021-10-01T17:58:45Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > They have NOW been proven in both Antrim Co. Michigan and Maricopa Co. Arizona. Fucking media won’t report on these, as I assure you I have seen nothing about proven voter fraud allegations in either county. All they report on is the guy who illegally voted for Trump twice. That’s not what we need from the media. We need real reports of real fraud. But they won’t do it. It would be a genuine public service if you would post some of the evidence here so we can all see it. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/154 "2021-10-01T17:58:51Z")
And still not a shred of evidence of any fraud, just disbelief that a boring old guy like Biden could beat Trump like a drum. Face it. Trump pissed off millions and millions of Americans. And so he lost, fair and square. Trump lost. Suck it up and face reality. I was pissed when Hillary lost in 2016, but I accepted it. It wasn’t a stolen election – Trump really won. And in 2020 Trump lost, to Joe Biden. Trump lost because of his own words and actions, not because of anything anyone else did. Trump has no one to blame but himself for his loss. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/155 "2021-10-01T18:05:50Z")
Oh you are back! I repeat my question, any hard dates for the start of the sentences, perp walks etc?, in other words, is there any point in time when the fact that the predictions made by your theory fail to materialize can be expected to make you realize it doesn’t fit reality? ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/156 "2021-10-01T18:06:31Z")
just in time for Infrastructure Week! ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/157 "2021-10-01T18:08:57Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Trump has no one to blame but himself for his loss. He showed the nation what a lying, cheating, criminal, fraudulent, treasonous fraud that he is. Trump is really, really too stupid to realize that. As are his supporters. Trump belongs in the ‘big house’ not the White House. That is perfectly clear to those that can see. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/158 "2021-10-01T18:09:18Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > They have NOW been proven in both Antrim Co. Michigan and Maricopa Co. Arizona. Why do you believe this? All the investigations e not turned up any evidence of fraud. > [@dolfinwriter](#): > > Have none of you read the TIME Magazine article where they _BRAGGED_ about how they stole the election? I’ve not heard of such a thing. Got a link? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/159 "2021-10-01T18:09:28Z")
I thought you were leaving. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329/160 "2021-10-01T18:19:37Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > And by the way, don’t quote Fox News to any solid conservative. They turned traitor on election night and they’ve confirmed it a number of times since then. They are now no more reliable than CNN or MSDNC. OK, how about Red State? - or any other news source you care to share here - they are all reporting that Biden won and Trump lost in Maricopa county… > **[Arizona Election Audit Delivers Surprise Result, Per Reports](https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/09/24/arizona-election-audit-delivers-surprise-result-per-reports-n447366)** > >   _The results from the Arizona audit are in per multiple reports, and they are going to set off a firestorm. According to Axios, who is reporting on a copy of the Cyber Ninjas findings obtained by The Washington Post, Joe Biden not only won Maricopa County, where the audit was taking place but won it by a wider margin than the official results._ _Unless these reports, which are also coming from [local Arizona news](https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/09/23/arizona-audit-draft-report-confirms-biden-beat-trump-2020/5835521001/), are completely false, Biden will apparently be found to have garnered 360 more votes than originally counted._ Woops! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-anyone-provided-proof-the-election-was-stolen/951329.md?page=9)