# Has Creative Labs stopped selling Mp3 Players? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 9, 2012, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-creative-labs-stopped-selling-mp3-players/612285 "2012-02-09T05:58:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-creative-labs-stopped-selling-mp3-players/612285/21 "2012-02-09T13:58:56Z")
> [@Pitchmeister](#): > > Well, it sort of is your fault if you let annoyances cloud your judgement that haven’t existed for four year. “Sort of”, perhaps. “Entirely”, not at all. “Irrational hatred”? More like irrational hyperbole from someone all upset that someone got a precious Apple Fact wrong rather than just calmly correcting their error. Which almost sounds… irrational? ---
**Author:** ![Pitchmeister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pitchmeister/32/3459_2.png) [@Pitchmeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pitchmeister)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-creative-labs-stopped-selling-mp3-players/612285/22 "2012-02-09T14:21:10Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > “Sort of”, perhaps. “Entirely”, not at all. “Irrational hatred”? More like irrational hyperbole from someone all upset that someone got a precious Apple Fact wrong rather than just calmly correcting their error. Which almost sounds… irrational? Alright, maybe hatred is a bit strong, could have phrased that differently. However, if I may quote: > [@aceplace57](#): > > There’s no way in hell I’m going near an IPod and their DRM crap. Creative Labs was the only one that made a quality player without DRM. That just ain’t true. Anyway, let’s put this hijack to rest, I didn’t mean to step on anyone’s toes. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-creative-labs-stopped-selling-mp3-players/612285/23 "2012-02-09T19:26:07Z")
> [@Postariti](#): > > You might like a Sansa Clip. They run around $40. You can use memory cards with them, which means you can greatly expand storage. Or in your case, you could have different cards for different selections of music. > > I haven’t played with mine much yet, but I understand it does take a while for the player to sort through everything when you put in a new card. Yeah, I’ve been happy with my Sansas (older models than the Clip, though). I installed the [Rockbox](http://www.rockbox.org/) firmware on one, and it starts right up and doesn’t have to sort through anything when you turn it on. And you can just copy over files like a standard flash drive—no software required. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-creative-labs-stopped-selling-mp3-players/612285/24 "2012-02-10T17:51:42Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I can’t imagine how anyone with a 32GB player stays sane. That’s just too much space just for music. I don’t know how I would stay sane without it! My 30 GB iPod is almost filled to capacity with most of my music collection and a wide selection of podcasts; I pick what I want to hear based on my mood at the moment. One day I forgot to charge it, and I had to listen to a CD instead. I was not happy. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-creative-labs-stopped-selling-mp3-players/612285/25 "2012-02-10T22:02:16Z")
I had a 3rd generation iPod, and I still never once dealt with DRM on it. (I did buy an ebook from iTunes once. Man did the quality suck–and I paid almost as much as I would for a CD just because I wanted it right away.) ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-creative-labs-stopped-selling-mp3-players/612285/26 "2012-02-10T23:34:42Z")
Yeah I have a Sansa Sandisk Clip, and I love it to pieces. I can just plug it into anyone’s computer and copy over a single song they want me to hear easy peasy. No synching, no complications, nothing. Works exactly like a flashdrive, and is particularly good at handling podcasts/audiobooks. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-creative-labs-stopped-selling-mp3-players/612285/27 "2012-02-11T02:18:20Z")
I miss my MuVo[sup]2[/sup] FM. ☹ Partly because of all the music that’s stuck on it, that I can’t access any more. ---
**Author:** ![gatorslap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gatorslap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gatorslap)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-creative-labs-stopped-selling-mp3-players/612285/28 "2012-02-11T07:22:45Z")
> [@Postariti](#): > > You might like a Sansa Clip. They run around $40. You can use memory cards with them, which means you can greatly expand storage. Or in your case, you could have different cards for different selections of music. > > I haven’t played with mine much yet, but I understand it does take a while for the player to sort through everything when you put in a new card. I have a Sansa Clip. For the most part, I love it. Very good audio quality, functional display, good battery life, and no propriety software. As to your last comment, it’s true. Whenever you add or remove songs, it has to refresh before you can use it, and that can take a while and can be annoying. But I can live with it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-creative-labs-stopped-selling-mp3-players/612285.md?page=1)