# Has Dawn Wells ever commented on 'Ginger, or Mary Ann'?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 21, 2014, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341 "2014-01-21T03:43:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341/41 "2014-01-22T23:31:12Z")

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My theory\* is that Tina Louise became jealous that more men actually preferred Dawn Wells over her. If she had become this great sex object because of the show, her attitude probably would have been very different. But she was put in to be this fabulously beautiful actress, and instead was overshadowed by ‘the rest’/the farm girl.

- that I just made up

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341/42 "2014-01-22T23:55:49Z")

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> [@standingwave](#):
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> … and could make coconut cream pies. …

Where did she get the cream?  
Ewwww.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341/43 "2014-01-23T00:53:19Z")

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> [@BMalion](#):
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> Where did she get the cream?  
> Ewwww.

Coconut milk.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341/44 "2014-01-23T01:02:24Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> That’s not her comment. She says it _grew_ during syndication but boys were more interested in Mary Ann from the beginning.

We apparently interpret “And I don’t think it went on during the show” differently. :rolleyes:

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341/45 "2014-01-23T01:21:24Z")

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Looking at Tina Louise [IMDB resume](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001481/), it doesn’t appear that she had **Bold Print** items prior to GI. I am not sure why she would think she would have top billing over Bob Denver who had a solid job in Dobie Gillis and even Jim Backus who had his own shoe plus the voice of Mr Magoo.

Pretty presumptuous I would think. IMO, Her credits are tied for third with the rest of the cast (Alan Hale, Dawn Wells, Natalie Schafer, and Russell Johnson).

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341/46 "2014-01-23T01:38:00Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> I am not sure why she would think she would have top billing over Bob Denver who had a solid job in Dobie Gillis and even Jim Backus who had his own shoe plus the voice of Mr Magoo.

Plus, Alan Hale was not only a veteran actor by then, but the son of a Hollywood legend as well.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341/47 "2014-01-23T02:32:24Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Coconut milk.

And the eggs?

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341/48 "2014-01-23T03:35:41Z")

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Isn’t the answer (to the MAoG question) obvious?

One night with Ginger, the rest with Mary Ann.

Unless Mary Ann is bi, in which case … oh never mind.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341/49 "2014-01-23T05:57:54Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> I remember on writeup about the shoe

> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> and even Jim Backus who had his own shoe

Boy, you guys place a lot of importance on footwear!

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341/50 "2014-01-23T11:14:33Z")

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> [@BMalion](#):
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> And the eggs?

Were there no birds or reptiles on the island? :dubious:

Actually, in the B&W episode where she made the first cream pie, I think she explained to Gilligan which native ingredients she used.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341/51 "2014-01-23T13:17:30Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> Boy, you guys place a lot of importance on footwear!

It’s the Ed Sullivan influence.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341/52 "2014-01-23T15:35:17Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Were there no birds or reptiles on the island? :dubious:
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> Actually, in the B&W episode where she made the first cream pie, I think she explained to Gilligan which native ingredients she used.

One could somehow make a creamy coconut filling for a ‘pie’ from coconuts. Even without eggs. I want to know did she make a crust? from what? never mind eggs, how about the sugar? sweetened with…?? did she bake this pie, and if so, how? (probably with a reflective box using the sun, rigged by the professor)

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341/53 "2014-01-23T15:50:37Z")

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She says that the _question_ “Mary Ann or Ginger?” didn’t really show up during airing, but arose during syndication. The _answer_, of course, was there all along. That is to say, any straight male watching the show, on any airing, would develop a preference, but it wasn’t until after that you could just ask a random guy on the street “Mary Ann or Ginger?”, and both of you would know what you were talking about.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341/54 "2014-01-23T15:53:48Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> One could somehow make a creamy coconut filling for a ‘pie’ from coconuts. Even without eggs. I want to know did she make a crust? from what? never mind eggs, how about the sugar? sweetened with…?? did she bake this pie, and if so, how? (probably with a reflective box using the sun, rigged by the professor)

Bird eggs.  
Breast milk. 😛  
Sago (Palm flour)

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341/55 "2014-01-23T15:55:05Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> We apparently interpret “And I don’t think it went on during the show” differently. :rolleyes:

Just like the Bible, you sometimes have to listen to the entire context. Her immediate next words are what **Skywatcher** said.

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Just like the Bible, you sometimes have to listen to the entire context. Her immediate next words are what **Skywatcher** said.

Her immediate next words are “I think it grew as the show went into reruns.” :rolleyes:

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341/57 "2014-01-23T17:14:19Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> One could somehow make a creamy coconut filling for a ‘pie’ from coconuts. Even without eggs. I want to know did she make a crust? from what? never mind eggs, how about the sugar? sweetened with…?? did she bake this pie, and if so, how? (probably with a reflective box using the sun, rigged by the professor)

If you like, I’ll pull the DVD with this episode out of its box and give a full report when I’m through working.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341/58 "2014-01-23T17:36:20Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> We apparently interpret “And I don’t think it went on during the show” differently. :rolleyes:

> [@Chronos](#):
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> She says that the _question_ “Mary Ann or Ginger?” didn’t really show up during airing, but arose during syndication.

“It _grew_ during syndication.” For it to grow, it had to exist during the original run, _n’est ce pas?_

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> “It _grew_ during syndication.” For it to grow, it had to exist during the original run, _n’est ce pas?_

And a new debate was born.

Did it exist and then grow? or did it have to grow first to exist?

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-dawn-wells-ever-commented-on-ginger-or-mary-ann/679341/60 "2014-01-23T17:47:10Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> One could somehow make a creamy coconut filling for a ‘pie’ from coconuts. Even without eggs. I want to know did she make a crust? from what? never mind eggs, how about the sugar? sweetened with…?? did she bake this pie, and if so, how? (probably with a reflective box using the sun, rigged by the professor)

As Chimera said: Bird eggs, Palm flour, and Coconut, which is sweet by itself … are you implying that the castaways are unable to start a fire? And that they would be challenged by the concept of a stone or mud-brick oven? You don’t have to be the Professor (or even a boy scout) to start a fire and build a simple oven.

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