# Has Democratic voter turnout basically hit a ceiling and can't go any higher? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [August 23, 2025, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-democratic-voter-turnout-basically-hit-a-ceiling-and-cant-go-any-higher/1022410 "2025-08-23T05:23:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 21
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-democratic-voter-turnout-basically-hit-a-ceiling-and-cant-go-any-higher/1022410/21 "2025-08-24T20:19:39Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > And back to my original post on all this, is why JUST talking about the economy on direct, honest, and _accurate_ terms isn’t going to win this otherwise politically uninvolved group. Or on those from the general category that have already given MAGA their loyalty. They don’t trust our sources of information, our motives on why it needs to be complicated/nuanced, and the more we try, the more many of them want to spite us. I think that many that tells us that we should “not go low” when dealing with this issue are ignoring how in the past, a lot of people that indeed are not much involved can be”reached” by not pulling back, one has to lower the levels and be more direct, while still keeping a bit of accuracy. I do remember how James Burke in the Day the Universe Changed, showed how the growing protestant movements in Germany took on the corrupt pope and his indulgences in 1545. Turns out that the way was not only to go high, but to know also when to take the gloves off… or fart in the general direction of the ones corrupting government and demolishing laws and institutions while appealing at all levels of understanding. > **[Dailymotion](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6d3cl1?start=1914)** (The day the universe changed. Episode 4.Episode 4: A matter of fact: Printing transforms knowledge. James Burke.) > “[Luther’s] techniques came together in the pamphlets, color anti-pope cartoons for the illiterates, German for the locals, Latin for the church men, but in any form the message is clear.. [fart noise]” > **[https://preview.redd.it/0uos58xwyko81.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp...](https://preview.redd.it/0uos58xwyko81.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c161d31a55004198492e48e9b2483c925c71880b)** I have to say it, we will have to go high **and low** against the current corruption. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-democratic-voter-turnout-basically-hit-a-ceiling-and-cant-go-any-higher/1022410)._