# Has Fox news ever gone this far as a propaganda machine? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 3, 2013, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284 "2013-10-03T18:24:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/21 "2013-10-03T21:33:30Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Well, maybe at 45 you were into the whole hipster scene before it became commercial and mainstream, you ever think of that, hmm ? How did the hipster burn his tongue? He was eating pizza before it was cool! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/22 "2013-10-03T21:34:53Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Oops. Meant ‘circle of acquaintances’. No, stick with “acquiescences,” it sounds more fun. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/23 "2013-10-03T21:39:23Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > I get much of my comedy from Stewart. I get some of my comedy from him, too. For a sense of balance, though, I also get some of my comedy from _Fox and Friends_. Have you ever seen that show? It’s fucking [hilarious](http://img.izismile.com/img/img4/20110804/640/daily_picdump_761_640_55.jpg) sometimes. I swear some episodes could have been scripted by the Coen brothers\*. I half expect them to show a clip of Nicholas Cage stealing diapers to illustrate how Obama’s Economy[sup]TM[/sup] is encouraging people to turn to crime in order to provide for their children. \*Instead it’s probably scripted by the Koch brothers ---
**Author:** ![drew870mitchell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drew870mitchell/32/3946_2.png) [@drew870mitchell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drew870mitchell)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/24 "2013-10-03T21:40:49Z")
Generally the remaining Fox News daytime viewers fall into one of these categories: (a) The brainwashed (b) _Daily Show_ interns © People in waiting rooms where the remote is hidden The trifecta of captive audiences? ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/25 "2013-10-03T21:52:07Z")
> [@drew870mitchell](#): > > Generally the remaining Fox News daytime viewers fall into one of these categories: > > (a) The brainwashed > (b) _Daily Show_ interns > (c) People in waiting rooms where the remote is hidden > > The trifecta of captive audiences? I think, at least in S Cal, there is a d) for the boobs. My husband watches it in the morning before work and calls it Boob News. The odd thing is, he’s a Democrat. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/26 "2013-10-03T22:48:51Z")
I take it you mean “boob” in the connotation of a simpleton? ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/27 "2013-10-03T23:03:00Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > I get much of my comedy from Stewart. It’s comedy because he’s generally making fun of news organizations’ (remember, his is a comedy show) treatment of stories _that I’m already aware of_. > > And “channel”? Really? Granted, my circle of acquiescences has shrunk over the years, but I don’t know of a single well-informed individual from either side of the political spectrum that gets their news from television. If that’s your primary news source or you think others get their news from a “channel,” it’s pretty much a sign of ignorance. With all due respect, I fear "others get their news from a “channel,” " is still way too true, too often. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/28 "2013-10-04T00:36:16Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Were those real? As in things Fox news broadcast? . . . Yep. I remember the controversy at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/29 "2013-10-04T00:58:56Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > > [@Karrius](#): > > > > After stuff like this: [http://meathaus.com/wp-content/images/fox-news-shitty-photoshop.jpg](http://meathaus.com/wp-content/images/fox-news-shitty-photoshop.jpg) > > > > I don’t think you CAN reach any lower. > > Were those real? As in things Fox news broadcast? > > As to the OP, I’m with you, except that it seems like par for the course. I’m not sure I see a distinct difference in Fox’s partisan efforts. The two people pictured were a reporter and editor for The New York Times. [Here](http://mediamatters.org/research/2008/07/02/fox-news-airs-altered-photos-of-ny-times-report/143921) is a piece by Media Matters for America on it. The Media Matters story includes the video of the original story from Fox News in which they showed the doctored photos. ---
**Author:** ![zoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/71c47a/32.png) [@zoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/30 "2013-10-04T01:56:30Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > And “channel”? Really? Granted, my circle of acquiescences has shrunk over the years, but I don’t know of a single well-informed individual from either side of the political spectrum that gets their news from television. If that’s your primary news source or you think others get their news from a “channel,” it’s pretty much a sign of ignorance. I get much of my news from Cspan. I think they do a pretty good job. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/31 "2013-10-04T02:12:36Z")
> [@Rysdad](#): > > The irony, it burns! You’re the dipshit who came into the thread with a weak attempt at a _tu quoque_ rather than offering any substantive rebuttal to the OP. Then again, I guess that’s in keeping with the Fox News method of dealing with facts that contradict your ignorant beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/32 "2013-10-04T03:19:04Z")
> [@Karrius](#): > > After stuff like this: [http://meathaus.com/wp-content/images/fox-news-shitty-photoshop.jpg](http://meathaus.com/wp-content/images/fox-news-shitty-photoshop.jpg) > > I don’t think you CAN reach any lower. I saw a few people ask if this was fucking real but if there was an answer, I missed it. That CAN’T be real…can it?! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/33 "2013-10-04T03:22:50Z")
Psst. Look at my post, three up from yours. ---
**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/34 "2013-10-04T04:49:21Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Psst. Look at my post, three up from yours. Oops, I can’t read. That is unbelievable!! Everyone should show this to every Fox “News” viewer they know. Lucky for me I don’t know any. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/35 "2013-10-04T04:59:02Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > No U! I also didn’t realize Nancy Grace was a liberal. Incidentally, that’s not to imply she’s a conservative either. I’ve never thought of her as being terribly political but rather than being a slightly cleaned up tabloid reporter. Geraldo Rivera with a higher IQ and more charisma. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/36 "2013-10-04T05:30:35Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > **Has Fox news ever gone this far as a propaganda machine?** Yeah, pretty much every time a Pub gets caught in a scandal, and the newscrawl at the bottom of the screen reads “(name)-D.” ---
**Author:** ![Tinkertoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f19dbf/32.png) [@Tinkertoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tinkertoy)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/37 "2013-10-04T05:35:33Z")
You think Nancy Grace has charisma? Tell the truth, you listen to Wayne Newton don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/38 "2013-10-04T05:46:17Z")
I still can’t believe Greta Van Susteren went over to the dark side. :dubious: Maybe all that plastic surgery did something to her. I also just got a post on Facebook from someone who really does believe in the whole “death panels” thing, and that people over 65 will not be able to get cancer treatment under Obamacare. I’m not even going to bother asking what her source was. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/39 "2013-10-04T06:10:06Z")
> [@Tinkertoy](#): > > You think Nancy Grace has charisma? Tell the truth, you listen to Wayne Newton don’t you? Hey now, I won’t have anybody insulting Wayne Newton. Just watch yourself, **Tinkertoy**. ---
**Author:** ![drew870mitchell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drew870mitchell/32/3946_2.png) [@drew870mitchell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drew870mitchell)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/40 "2013-10-04T08:31:51Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > I think, at least in S Cal, there is a d) for the boobs. My husband watches it in the morning before work and calls it Boob News. The odd thing is, he’s a Democrat. I don’t understand this mentality. “FNC sucks, but they have scantily clad ladies.” “This movie sucks, but there’s a scene with nudity.” Do people who think these things not realize there’s an entire Internet with as much pornography as they want? If you want to see cleavage and legs you’re not limited to watching it while GOP talking points are barked at you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284.md?page=3)