# Has Fox news ever gone this far as a propaganda machine?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 3, 2013, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284 "2013-10-03T18:24:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/121 "2013-10-07T18:55:37Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> If more money were to be made pandering to liberals instead of conservatives, how long do you think it would take Fox to do a complete transformation?

The rest of Rupert Murdoch’s life.

Shouldn’t be long, now.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/122 "2013-10-07T19:00:25Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> The rest of Rupert Murdoch’s life.
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> Shouldn’t be long, now.

Do you really think he’s got any principles left that haven’t already been sold long ago?

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/123 "2013-10-07T19:00:30Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> If more money were to be made pandering to liberals instead of conservatives, how long do you think it would take Fox to do a complete transformation?

What they should do is launch a whacko far left channel. Call it the Hound, then the Fox and the Hound could spend all day screeching about how biased an unfair the other side is. Of course behind the scenes everyone from both channels would be in on it and they would carefully coordinate stories to generate the maximum amount of outrage.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/124 "2013-10-07T19:02:26Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Do you really think he’s got any principles left that haven’t already been sold long ago?

I think Fox and his other media outlets mean less to him as cash cows than as megaphones.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/125 "2013-10-07T19:28:12Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> What they should do is launch a whacko far left channel.

That would work about as well as Fox News trying to make their own comedy show.

Or when the left made their own radio network.

Lefts and rights get their media fixes different places.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/126 "2013-10-07T19:35:51Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> That would work about as well as Fox News trying to make their own comedy show.
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> Or when the left made their own radio network.
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> Lefts and rights get their media fixes different places.

That, and we would mock our own “Fox” almost as much as we mock the original. Jon Stewart would have to expand his show by another hour.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/127 "2013-10-07T19:58:04Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> That, and we would mock our own “Fox” almost as much as we mock the original. Jon Stewart would have to expand his show by another hour.

Well that’s the whole point, double down on the crazy.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/128 "2013-10-07T20:53:54Z")

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The OP is trying waaaayyyyy too hard.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/129 "2013-10-07T21:08:26Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> The OP is trying waaaayyyyy too hard.

Let’s find out, shall we?

What is your opinion of what Fox did in this case? Was it wrong to manipulate the pictures, or do you think the ends justify the means?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2013, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/130 "2013-10-07T21:18:37Z")

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Immature, sophomoric, and dumb. Wrong? Nah. Cheerleading for a needless and brutal war? That’s a paddlin’.

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**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/131 "2013-10-08T16:40:34Z")

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> [@Karrius](#):
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> After stuff like this: [http://meathaus.com/wp-content/images/fox-news-shitty-photoshop.jpg](http://meathaus.com/wp-content/images/fox-news-shitty-photoshop.jpg)
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> I don’t think you CAN reach any lower.

ROFL! They even yellowed the teeth!

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-fox-news-ever-gone-this-far-as-a-propaganda-machine/670284/132 "2013-10-08T17:17:21Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> The OP is trying waaaayyyyy too hard.

Doesn’t seem like the OP had to try very hard at all, Fox really just lobbed that one over the plate.

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