Well whatever rocks your boat, but as no important cite or group that deals with the issue comes out with a similar one, it is just an opinion, and distracting to the issue at hand.. and that indeed makes me wonder. :dubious:
The Univision bit was very important, one should check the Rachel Maddow video cited early to see that the problem now is just like Nixon had. It is the “coverup” and the efforts of pushing this under the rug what are a problem with the Heritage and many that **continue **to support those “researchers”.
As the reporter in Univision (the most important Hispanic network in the USA) pointed out to a representative of the Heritage, continuing to keep that creepy researcher in their wing is just showing all Hispanics what many Republicans in leadership positions are continuing to look the other way when racists like that are twisting research and attempting to influence policy based on rotten studies.
Please, Republicans, keep it up! If enough Tejanos use their vote (these are legal citizens–many of whose ancestors were on this side of the river before mine crossed the Atlantic–they just don’t like insults), Texas will turn Blue again. And the Republicans will never gain win a national election.
(Oh, the Austin website in the link has a “Crazy Ted Cruz” tag.)
He says that the correlation between IQ and income is .56.
He has a section which he talks about the children of latino immigrants being assimilated into the oppositional culture of the underclass. He describes this culture as being negative toward work and schooling and gives a theory about why oppositional culture developed. The percent of young men not in the labor force are 7% for whites, 6.5% for immigrants and 11% for native hispanics. The incarceration rates are 1% for whites, .5% for immigrants, and 4.5% for native hispanics.
The problem is that income will vary even amoung people with similar IQs depending on the country of origin. It might take a genius to make 10K a year in Haiti whereas in the Dominican Republic someone with average IQ could earn 11K per year. The difference is not due to earning potential but rather to the success of the society they are coming from. Even in the same country different regions have different income distributions and testing for IQ rather than current income will factor that out.
I think Richwine would agree that the fact that immigrants children fare worse than immigrants on certain measures mean that there is something wrong with America’s ability to assimilate its immigrants into mainstream culture. However, immigration policy can be changed by politicians whenever they want to but changing the culture is a long and difficult undertaking if it is possible to do at all. Given that America gets immigrants for fifty years or so and then gets their descendants forever, it makes sense for the immigrants’ descendants to be factored in to immigration policy.
The author of the controversial papers quit the Heritage, now to get the demented one that thought that it was a good idea to go to the bottom of the barrel for researchers:
Here’s a little evidence that the OP has a point: the head of the Republican Party’s Hispanic outreach program in Florida has quit to join the Democratic Party, referring to Richwine’s paper in an obscure sort of way as evidence the Republicans have deep-seated issues with Hispanics.
IQ would not factor that out because it is an imperfect predictor of income in both the country of origin and in the USA.
On the other hand, a person that makes twice the median income in Haiti probably has something special just like the person that makes twice the median income in the Dominican Republic. Statistics allows us to make comparisons while factoring out uninteresting variables such as a nation-of-origin’s overall wealth.
No, the thesis is a tortured analysis that attempts to paint a negative picture of the lives of 2nd and 3rd generation immigrant groups and pinning the problem on their IQ. It glosses over the failures of our policies toward immigrants and poor people in general. It should focus on all the reasons why immigrants are successful in every sense except for being poor and what that means for their children - better education, higher median income, and greater incarceration rates. Instead it focuses on IQ and essentially ignores everything else. It shows that being poor in this country is an extremely difficult hurdle to overcome in obtaining all the characteristics of middle class success. The thesis is an extensive undergraduate term paper.
I think you’re overreaching: at most, IQ is 50% heritable. Say you have a mouse that’s awesome at solving puzzles: do you really care whether the mouse was born intelligent or whether that mouse has been breathlessly solving Morris maze tests since it was a pup? Similarly, how do you tell if Einstein was born smart or developed it naturally due a loving and nurturing environment? And, if you could differentiate the smartbecauseIwasbornthatway person and the smartbecauseIwasnurtured person, would you really choose former of the latter? To do so would mean we would turn the immigration system into some social darwin experiment.
As for the immigration thing, I think the parents should, sadly, be expelled from the country and never allowed to return. However, their children can stay. It sounds cruel, I know, but the problem isn’t entirely the immigration system (but it can use reforms) but mostly with government refusing to round them up and deport them and be done with it. If the government can locate Osama bin Laden in some suburb in Pakistan, they sure as hell can locate 20 million non citizens living within their borders.
It’s a dumb question. Everybody knows that some groups of people are smarter than others on average, and pointing this out should not be particularly controversial.
For instance, liberals have sometimes pointed out that people in “red” states have lower average IQ scores than people in “blue” states. Does this mean they have killed liberalism’s political appeal to “low IQ” people in red states?
If I point out that college professors are smarter on average than other people, is this going to make people not want to go to college?
What pay stub? In many countries those don’t even exist, but one thing which exists in the immense majority of countries and which immigrants to the US already are asked for is diplomas, which do correlate with earning potential.
It’s interesting isn’t it. Should a Think Tank policy analyst report on the data and explain the likely outcomes of policies regardless of whether the conclusions will be offensive or politically palatable?
