# Has Meg Ryan had "work done"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 2, 2004, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-meg-ryan-had-work-done/248238 "2004-06-02T11:38:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2004, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-meg-ryan-had-work-done/248238/21 "2004-06-11T07:09:23Z")
> [@](#): > > I don’t think it’s mocking their “artificial ugliness” as much as mocking the ridiculousness of already above-average people resorting to unnecessary plastic surgery, and then wakling around acting as though they look terrific with lips like pufferfish, perpetually surprised expressions or noses which appear to be receeding into their bodies. I’m sorry, I just don’t see the difference. One is a subjective judgment based on how they look, and the other is a subjective judgment based on how they look. So I ask… is it okay to make fun of ugly people, or not? > [@](#): > > Problem is that as women age, they have less “natural beauty” So not true. Man oh man, “Middle-Aged Sexiness” is a very nice thing indeed. Had a 40-something Speech teacher, once, that was hot as Hell. ::wolf whistle:: … Ahem. Sorry. Where was I? ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-meg-ryan-had-work-done/248238/22 "2004-06-12T19:56:10Z")
She had a turbocharger put on her Beemer, and she had her kitchen floor redone. What’s the big deal? ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2004, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-meg-ryan-had-work-done/248238/23 "2004-06-12T23:58:23Z")
> [@SPOOFE](#): > > I’m sorry, I just don’t see the difference. One is a subjective judgment based on how they look, and the other is a subjective judgment based on how they look. So I ask… is it okay to make fun of ugly people, or not? No, one is a subjective judgment on what nature (or God - however you see it) has given them. The other is a subjective judgment on their taste. Someone who has _chosen_ (and there’s the key word for me) to undergo plastic surgery that made them look awful is in the same category as someone who has chosen to wear orange striped sweaters with a purple plaid skirt and top it off with polka-dotted accessories in neon. Those people have made bad decisions. Making fun of their decisions, judgments, and choices may be petty, but it isn’t anywhere near same category of pointing and laughing at ugly people. ---
**Author:** ![TeaElle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TeaElle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaElle)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-meg-ryan-had-work-done/248238/24 "2004-06-13T02:36:48Z")
> [@SPOOFE](#): > > I’m sorry, I just don’t see the difference. One is a subjective judgment based on how they look, and the other is a subjective judgment based on how they look. Not to my mind – my objection is not the results. I don’t care if a 40 year old beauty gets surgery and ends up looking like a 30 year old beauty (like Bo Derek) or a 40 year old beauty who has been mangled (like Meg Ryan) my objection is with the culture which demands surgery to begin with. I find the latter to be doubly ridiculous, but the whole concept is screwed, IMO. There’s nothing wrong with looking your age. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-meg-ryan-had-work-done/248238/25 "2004-06-13T02:42:22Z")
> [@Krokodil](#): > > Um, why should there be any stigma to an actress (particularly one who has traded heavily on her looks for her whole career) having cosmetic surgery? Yeah, it looks scary initially, but… I think it’s fair to attach a stigma to people who deliberately make themselves look like baby-eating aliens from the planet Monstros. A little plastic surgery is one thing, but Ryan and some others are taking it to grotesque extremes. Meg Ryan was a beautiful woman, and would have remained beautiful if she hadn’t paid someone to make her look like Tina The Trout Woman. Incidentally, I thought it had been established that Lindsay Lohan’s boobs are the real thing? She tries to push 'em up a lot, but they’re not really that big. ---
**Author:** ![Winston\_Bongo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9adbd/32.png) [@Winston\_Bongo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Bongo)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2004, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-meg-ryan-had-work-done/248238/26 "2004-06-13T03:45:09Z")
Which brings to mind the question: how exactly does one go about establishing the realism of Lindsay Lohan’s boobs? (Fill in own joke here.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-meg-ryan-had-work-done/248238.md?page=1)