# Has Nickelodeon Lost It?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 18, 2002, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417 "2002-08-18T00:14:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Montezuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3be4f8/32.png) [@Montezuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montezuma)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2002, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/41 "2002-08-19T20:54:05Z")

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How aout Ferris Bueller: The series. I’m sure it had jenifer aniston starring in it!

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2002, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/42 "2002-08-19T21:53:48Z")

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From the [Epguides.com](http://Epguides.com) website:

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> Jennifer Aniston (with original nose) as Jeannie Buller, Ferris’ sister

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2002, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/43 "2002-08-20T13:45:55Z")

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Hey all you Pete & Pete fans, the show can be seen on Noggin in case you didn’t know.

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**Author:** ![The\_Wrong\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@The\_Wrong\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Wrong_Girl)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2002, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/44 "2002-08-20T15:28:22Z")

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Oh, man…I used to love to watch Nickelodeon on Saturday afternoons. I’ve got to try to see if I can get Noggin; I seriously miss Pete and Pete. So many memories…

Does anyone remember that huge gumball machine on the _Double Dare_ obstacle course? That used to be my dream to jump into it.

How about Fifteen, the overblown high school soap opera? I vaguely remember watching that and thinking that those actors looked so old and mature. I could hardly wait to be 15, so I could get into tangled romances, too.

And, of course, nothing beats Clarissa Explains it All. That show was just so good.

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**Author:** ![DougAB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@DougAB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DougAB)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2002, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/45 "2002-08-20T16:07:28Z")

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> Does anyone remember that huge gumball machine on the Double Dare obstacle course? That used to be my dream to jump into it.

Or the big head that you had to swab with the Q-tip? Gross!..and coooool!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2002, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/46 "2002-08-20T20:32:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by The Wrong Girl \*  
> \*\*And, of course, nothing beats Clarissa Explains it All. That show was just so good. \*\*

Also on Noggin, right after Pete & Pete.

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**Author:** ![Montezuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3be4f8/32.png) [@Montezuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montezuma)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2002, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/47 "2002-08-20T20:54:28Z")

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Hey! got a link for epguides?

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**Author:** ![mblackwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5fc32e/32.png) [@mblackwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mblackwell)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2002, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/48 "2002-08-20T21:39:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Thunder \*  
> \*\*Ok… gotta throw in “Count Duckula”.
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> Anybody remember that, or have any memories? \*\*

I remember it, it was good, but it was no **Mysterious Cities of Gold**.

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**Author:** ![Myrnalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@Myrnalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrnalene)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2002, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/49 "2002-08-20T22:08:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Thunder \*  
> \*\*Ok… gotta throw in “Count Duckula”.
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> Anybody remember that, or have any memories? \*\*

Eh. Lame-ass **Dangermouse** spin-off. It was on for years after **DM** was cancelled and it used to annoy me so. I missed **DM** so much that watching **Duckula** was like pouring lemon juice in a gaping head wound.

Sebastian and Belle, anyone? The Little Prince? Pinwheel (Plus and Minus, Minus and Plus…)? I’ve got a million of 'em.

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**Author:** ![Mandos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mandos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mandos)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2002, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/50 "2002-08-20T22:27:56Z")

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What’s terrible about Pete and Pete’s loss is that at the time it was on I didn’t appreciate what a wonderful show it was. It’s like when one reads a book once and then later reads it again to discover how wonderful it is. I will have to see about Noggin. Still, Nickelodean does have at least one good cartoon: Invader ZIM, which they will no longer be making new episodes for. It’s the same situation for Hey Arnold and Spongebob. They’re all cancelled. I can’t say that the loss of Hey Arnold and Spongebob particularly bother me but ZIM…and Rocko’s Modern Life was excellent too. _sigh_

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2002, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/51 "2002-08-21T00:57:26Z")

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Noggin edits out “objectionable” content from _Daria_, the rat bastards!

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**Author:** ![Krasivaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/958977/32.png) [@Krasivaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Krasivaya)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2002, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/52 "2002-08-21T02:18:49Z")

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Invader ZIM wins as my favorite cartoon of all time, if only because the creator was also responsible for that wonderful nihlist comic: Johnny the Homocidal Maniac. Ahhh Johann Vasquez, you slay me.

I miss the original SNICK. Anyone remember the original lineup? The Secret World of Alex Mack, Pete & Pete, Roundhouse, and Are You Afraid of the Dark? Nickolodeon will always have a special place in hell for cancelling Roundhouse and turning the ubur-creepy Are You Afraid…? into some bizarre, non-scary tiger-beat nightmare.

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**Author:** ![JessEnigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cdc98d/32.png) [@JessEnigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JessEnigma)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2002, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/53 "2002-08-21T02:32:09Z")

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Bah. Not only does Noggin edit Daria, it appears that they also can’t manage to schedule the episodes very well. The episode on right now aired just a few weeks ago. You can’t tell me they ran out of episodes already. It’s too soon…right?

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**Author:** ![TheOnlySaneOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@TheOnlySaneOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheOnlySaneOne)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2002, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/54 "2002-08-21T06:11:21Z")

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I miss one of the best shows to ever grace Nick: **The Secret World of Alex Mack**. Why do I miss it? Because I was jealous of her. 😃

I mean, she was a one girl superhero-team waiting to happen. She had telekinesis, could fire electrical bolts, polymorph into a liquid, and other cool powers. But her show was gotten rid of before she reached her full potential.

Nick would be nearly totally redeemed if they at least showed reruns of that show. And got rid of Spongebob.

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**Author:** ![DougAB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@DougAB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DougAB)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2002, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/55 "2002-08-23T17:02:23Z")

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> Nick would be nearly totally redeemed if they at least showed reruns of that show. And got rid of Spongebob.

Yes! Yes! You are true to your name!

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**Author:** ![raz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@raz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raz)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2002, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/56 "2002-08-23T21:26:32Z")

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Oh my GOSH, Krasivaya!

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> I miss the original SNICK. Anyone remember the original lineup? The Secret World of Alex Mack, Pete & Pete, Roundhouse, and Are You Afraid of the Dark?

Every Saturday night, my best friend Jill, her mom and dad and her older sister would come over and watch the SNICK lineup with my parents, my brother and I! That brings back so many good memories! Being terrified of “Are You Afraid of the Dark?”. We even had the computer video game “Orpheo’s Curse” on DOS and my mom and her sister had a race to see who could complete it first.

I totally miss Rocko, Clarissa, and Angry Beavers too. Anyone remember how lame Legends of the Hidden Temple was?

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/57 "2002-08-24T06:42:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Montezuma \*  
> \*\*Did the series of pete and pete get cancelled? or did it end? if it did, how? \*\*

My daughter appeared on Pete and Pete, in four shows during the last season (bonus points for guessing who she is.) What happened was that Mike wanted to go to college, and the ensemble of younger kids fell apart when Viacom wrested Michelle out to appear in Harriet the Spy.

I got to watch the filming of Adam West getting corned in the April Fool show. There was incredible tension - if they didn’t get it right the first time, it would have cost a lot of money. The corn didn’t come out very well, and in the show they did it in slow motion to make it look better.

I never got yo meet Iggy, but my wife did - and he is the nicest guy. They were filming Dance Fever in Catholic schools (actually two were used) and he was walking down the hall smoking, when one of the production staff said “You can’t smoke here, Mr. Pop.” Iggy Pop, the guy who did every drug known to man, was incredibly apologetic, and put it out immediately. He hung out with the crew, smoking on the loading dock. He’s known as “that nice man” in our house.

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**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/58 "2002-08-24T07:25:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Kaotic Newtral \*  
> \*\*I’m still pissed about Pete & Pete too! But, on a more recent note…I miss the Angry Beavers!!! \*\*

I’m with you on that one. Did those Spoot-heads at Nickleodeon cancel it?

Nick Bakay is one of my heroes, has been ever since “The Higgins Boys and Gruber.” I keep hoping I’ll get to work on a videogame that uses him for voiceover work.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/59 "2002-08-24T08:26:58Z")

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Here’s something interesting I found online:

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> _Official version of the Pete & Pete Theme:_  
> Hey smilin’ strange, you’re lookin’ happily deranged  
> **Unknown Line**  
> Or have you picked your target yet, hey Sandy ai yai yai yai…  
> Don’t you talk back, ai yai yai yai, hey Sandy  
> Four feet away, end of speech it’s the end of the day  
> We was only funnin’, but guiltily I thought you had it comin’, hey Sandy, ai yai yai yai  
> Don’t ya talk back, ai yai yai yai, hey Sandy, hey…

The line is officially unknown, but someone (that I think is more than a little credible) has found it out.

The corrected version:

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> Hey smilin strange  
> You lookin happily deranged  
> _Can you settle to shoot me_  
> Or have you picked your target yet  
> Hey Sandy (ai yai yai yai)…  
> Don’t you talk back (ai yai yai yai), Hey Sandy  
> Four feet away  
> End of speech it’s the end of the day  
> We was only funnin’,  
> But guiltily I thought you had it comin’  
> Hey Sandy (ai yai yai yai)  
> Don’t ya talk back, Hey Sandy
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> (Guitar solo with drums)
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> (ai yai yai yai…)Hey Sandy  
> Don’t you talk back  
> (ai yai yai yai…)Hey Sandy  
> Don’t you talk back  
> Hey Sandy ay ay…

This is going to require a bit of explaining:

The song is named “Hey Sandy”. It is a rewrite of an older song of the same name by Harvey Andrews, new lyrics but on the same subject. What subject? Sandy was Sandy Schuer, a student shot at Kent State. The third line (‘Can you settle to shoot me?’) is about the National Guard picking targets out of the crowd, obviously in a disorganized and arbitrary way. The rest of the song is rather dark: She’s shot at random by a Guardsman who didn’t have any specific reason to shoot her, and the singer is wondering if she didn’t bring it on herself by standing four feet from a man with a loaded rifle.

The rest of the song is just, well, happily deranged. It calls into question the sanity of Sandy (‘Hey smilin’ strange/Lookin’ happily deranged’) and the crowd (‘We was only funnin’’). The lines ‘End of the speech/End of the day’ imply that Sandy was being rather… voiciferous in her protests, probably goading the Guardsmen until it was, indeed, the end of the day.

Pretty heavy for a kid’s show, and probably why the line was elided for TV.

[My source.](http://www.artpenny.com/polarisweb/heysandysolved.htm)

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**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2002, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-nickelodeon-lost-it/124417/60 "2002-08-24T09:36:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SolGrundy \*  
> **Nick Bakay is one of my heroes, has been ever since "The Higgins Boys and Gruber."**

Ahhh, good times. Way back when these guys and Alex Haley were big on the Comedy Channel. Right after I got a TV in my bedroom. I probably watched more of CC (as it was called back then) and Nick then I’ve watched TV itself then at any other point in my life.

Maybe in a few years we’ll have a “Nick Classic” channel which will show all the classic shows that Nick used to have. In fact that’s a great idea and I’m sure it would make lots of money. It definately beats out my idea for an inside out toaster to toast the inside of pita bread so you could make toasted egg salad pita pockets.

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