# Has Obama committed any "Impeachable Offenses"?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 3, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750 "2009-09-03T15:32:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/61 "2009-09-05T00:17:16Z")

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> [@PrettyVacant](#):
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> He dances suspiciously well for a male, which must be an offfence in some States.

[Barack dancing](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsWpvkLCvu4)

[Jason Glover, who can actually dance](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EibmRze4p1M)

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**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2009, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/62 "2009-09-05T00:41:53Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> That would certainly work.
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> Except for the whole “evidence” thing, of course.

Evidence is meaningless, you can use evidence to prove anything that’s even remotely true! Evidence, shmevidence .

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/63 "2009-09-05T00:58:42Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> [Barack dancing](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsWpvkLCvu4)
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> [Jason Glover, who can actually dance](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EibmRze4p1M)
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> Unsupported.

Be that as it may, Obama can definitely dance better than a significant percentage of the guys I know, who seem to be incapable of moving their hips independently from their shoulders. As if their entire torso is one unbendable unit.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2009, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/64 "2009-09-05T07:42:48Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Clinton was accused of perjury in his Senate trial and it was also suggested by Starr that he could be indicted. He was acquitted by the Senate, which is the only time anyone bothered to indict him for perjury. Nailed implies a conviction.

Actually, I believe he lost some sort of credential or certification to argue before the Arkansas Supreme Court for a year or something. Whatever it was, it was a punishment for his perjury albeit a meaningless one.

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**Author:** ![obamarxist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8baadc/32.png) [@obamarxist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obamarxist)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/65 "2009-10-13T23:29:51Z")

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You have your facts wrong. In fact, Bill Clinton WAS impeached by Congress. The only Prez to ever be impeached.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/66 "2009-10-13T23:48:39Z")

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> [@obamarxist](#):
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> In fact, Bill Clinton WAS impeached by Congress. The only Prez to ever be impeached.

Andrew Johnson.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/67 "2009-10-14T00:07:12Z")

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> [@obamarxist](#):
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> You have your facts wrong. In fact, Bill Clinton WAS impeached by Congress. The only Prez to ever be impeached.

\<\<sigh\>\>

How soon people forget.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/68 "2009-10-14T00:30:07Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> The most outlandish set of circumstances the Birthers can claim still leaves him a US citizen since birth. So it doesn’t matter.

Actually, if Obama had been born in Kenya, Durham’s citizenship would not have been transferred to him, because under the law of the time, the mother had to have spent 4 years in the US after the age of 15 (either that or be a citizen, but in this case it makes no difference), and she was not yet 19 when she gave birth.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/69 "2009-10-14T00:41:17Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> The decision about whether to impeach a President is ultimately a political one. A hostile Congress could doubtless invent some impeachable office for Obama, but with Democrat majorities in both houses, **those Texans are pissing in the wind.**

Bolding mine. Never mind; I forgot this thread is in the Great Debates forum; my original post was not suited to this forum. My apologies to one and all.

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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/70 "2009-10-14T00:51:19Z")

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I know I guy who had an “Impeach Clinton” sticker hanging on his wall in December 1992, six weeks before Slick Willie was even sworn in.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/71 "2009-10-14T01:28:51Z")

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> [@middleman](#):
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> I guess we have gotten to the point where every president should be “impeached” according to the other side.

This is pretty much it. And possibly the “being President while Black” thing mentioned earlier. Some have not really gotten over that.

Of course, I suppose it is within the realm of possibility that the Texan guy with the truck was disappointed that Obama was not able to convince congress to get a much stronger single payer health care bill through, and had to settle for a compromise bill…

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/72 "2009-10-14T01:30:23Z")

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> [@zamboniracer](#):
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> I know I guy who had an “Impeach Clinton” sticker hanging on his wall in December 1992, six weeks before Slick Willie was even sworn in.

That’s AWESOME! Someone should produce a sticker:

“Impeach the republican nominee for 2016!”

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/73 "2009-10-14T01:58:08Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Many scientists agree that in 4.5 to 5 billion years, the Sun is going to run out of hydrogen and swell up into a red giant, probably swallowing up the Earth. What is Obama doing about it? Nothing. NOTHING!
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> I say impeach him.

4.5 to 5 billion.  
Oh OK. I thought you said million. I was scared for a minute there.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/74 "2009-10-14T02:08:47Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Actually, if Obama had been born in Kenya, Durham’s citizenship would not have been transferred to him, because under the law of the time, the mother had to have spent 4 years in the US after the age of 15 (either that or be a citizen, but in this case it makes no difference), and she was not yet 19 when she gave birth.

IANAL, but I don’t know that that particular set of circumstances has ever been tested in a court of law, and I find it hard to believe that the framers of the law intended to deny citizenship to children because their mothers were underage.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/75 "2009-10-14T02:14:51Z")

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Yeah, I should have phrased that less definitely, since I am not a lawyer either.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/76 "2009-10-14T02:26:34Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> It’s just one instance in a long string of “turnabout is fair play” tactics. “You did it to my guy, so I’m gonna do it to your guy!”

Yep, I think that’s it. Mindless partisan bickering.

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/77 "2009-10-14T21:50:10Z")

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> [@Frostillicus](#):
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> Obama is clearly guilty of BPWB (being president while black.)

Actually that should be “governing while black”: GWB.

GWB! OMG! It’s all a PLOT!! :eek:

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/78 "2009-10-14T22:06:44Z")

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There’s always that torture thang.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/79 "2009-10-19T15:58:54Z")

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The Repubs were pissed because Nixon got pushed out of office. They got their pound of flesh when they set up a committee that had one purpose ,investigate Bill Clinton’s entire life to find if they can hound him out of office. They spent millions of tax payer dollars in that glorious quest. They should be satisfied with that . The slate is clean now.

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**Author:** ![VAffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c6cbf5/32.png) [@VAffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VAffer)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-committed-any-impeachable-offenses/508750/80 "2009-10-23T12:28:10Z")

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😕ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT

Resolved, that Barack Hussein Obama, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors, and that the following articles of impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate:

Articles of impeachment exhibited by the House of Representatives of the United States of America in the name of itself and of the people of the United States of America, against Barack Hussein Obama, President of the United States of America, in maintenance and support of its impeachment against him for high crimes and misdemeanors.

Article I

In his conduct while President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has:

unlawfully exercised the authority of his office to take private property for public use in violation of the Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution, which guarantees to the People that “private property shall not be taken for public use without just compensation,” and without “due process of law”;

unlawfully interfered with the management of private companies for the purpose of achieving government control of them, in violation of the Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution.

unlawfully interfered with the economic rights of the People by imposing unreasonable impairments in the fulfillment of their intended contractual obligations, and their ability to enter into such contracts, and attempting to change our fundamental economic system, where there is no significant or legitimate public purpose to do so.

In doing this, Barack Hussein Obama has undermined the integrity of his office, has brought disrepute on the Presidency, has betrayed his trust as President, and has acted in a manner subversive of the rule of law and justice, to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.  
Wherefore, Barack Hussein Obama, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.

Article II

In his conduct while President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has prevented, obstructed, and impeded the administration of justice, and to that end, through his subordinates and agents, has:  
unlawfully engaged in a conspiracy to suppress evidence of the true place of his birth. This obstruction of justice has resulted in a violation of the Constitutional provision that a President of the United States must be a natural born citizen.

unlawfully refused his assent to the Laws of the United States, and exercised false powers of veto that are contrary to Constitution.  
In all of this, Barack Hussein Obama has undermined the integrity of his office, has brought disrepute on the Presidency, has betrayed his trust as President, and has acted in a manner subversive of the rule of law and justice, to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore, Barack Hussein Obama, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.  
There you have it Obama is not without complications. You can not battle the Constitution of the United States.- (Read the Constitution-It governs Presidentual behavor:):o VAFFer

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