# Has Obama spent a million dollars to hide his birth certificate?

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**Created:** [August 9, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877 "2009-08-09T22:44:05Z")\
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> [@](#):
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> Your question is answered, read my post again.
> 
> Don

Neither of my questions are answered. First, I asked for links to the other candidates’ birth certificates, since you say they presented them, but so far as I can tell, Obama was the _only_ candidate who released his birth certificate. Second, I asked which of two scenarios McCain fell into to grant him natural-born citizenship. You’ve stated that he was one, but didn’t say whether it was because he was born in the US, or because he was born outside of US jurisdiction to American parents.

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**Author:** ![Don123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19adc/32.png) [@Don123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don123)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/182 "2010-08-02T20:45:29Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> > [@Don123](#):
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> > It is your conspiracy theory, and opinion, that Obama is a born Citizen. All that needs to be shown is reasonable doubt for investigation, and this has not been accomplished by any valid court—in spite of about 100 cases filed, most were dismissed by the judge ruling the plaintiff has no legal standing to make the complaint, and NOT on the facts of the case.
> 
> So, you say most were dismissed for lack of legal standing. Do you dispute a speciifc case where you believe the person bringing the case did have legal standing? If so, are you a judge or lawyer, so I can at least have some idea whether you seem to know what you are talking about?
> 
> Meanwhile, what about the ones that were not dismissed because the person bringing the case did not have legal standing? All of them were were dismissed as well, right? Presumably at least one such ruling was determined on the merits (or lack of merit) of the case, no?
> 
> I have no power to determine the merits of a case in open court, or argue legal issues in front of the Senate, so I have no idea what point you think you are making.
> 
> Forgive me, have I called you a name? Oh, Birther? Does that not describe a person who (apparently falsely) believes Obama is not a citizen? If I have offended you, you have my sincere apologies. I will not describe you by that term again; instead, I will only refer to you as a person who does not believe Obama is a citizen.
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> > [@](#):
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> > But again this is a moot point—you wanted a black president, so you found a clean one and put him in office. Oh, Biden said that not I.
> 
> I did? When did I say that, exactly? Or Biden, for that matter?

Civil cases, and trial, in the USA are based on “what would a common person think or reason” NOT on what trained actors as attorneys would fathom. Members of the senate are people as yourself, by the way, and do not have any more mental gifts than you have—at least that is the idea in a representative government.  
So your statement of:

“I have no power to determine the merits of a case in open court, or argue legal issues in front of the Senate, so I have no idea what point you think you are making.”

Does not hold water with me, claiming incapability does relive responsibility of a citizen. If you are called to jury duty, it is not an excuse to say how incapable you are, and ignore the order. In many states you can be held for contempt of court.

The point being is looking for some authority to settle the matter other than public opinion, and to date that has not happened. Seeing the case is left to public opinion, you are just as able as any one else to search out the facts and come to a reasonable conclusion. Just pretend you are the senate and for the sake of the country you need the facts, and not hearsay.

In the first part of this thread the so called birthers were getting a beating in name calling and unfounded ridicule, I’m not sure if you were part of it or not. The point is, there is reasonable evidence what Obama is saying is not true about his birth records, so call him on it and read the legal cases on the subject, as sooner or latter you will have to turn to some authority, and court cases are the highest that you can get in this matter.

Of course we could use water-boarding—ha ha ha. Confess or you loose your finger nails always gets to the truth—ha ha ha

To me the over all view is not research, but rather if you question obama’s birth records you are a racist or some other mud-belly thing that walks with short legs. That is not an argument in any shape or form. Sorry if I included you undeservingly.

My intent was not to write a legal memo on the topic, with citations, but rather point out a few facts that some may desire to search out, and hit some high point for entertainment. A while back I had a fairly large file on the topic, perhaps I can dig it out if interest and time permits. But none the less it is all over the net. Just use key words on Google and you will do just fine.

By the way get yourself a free on-line copy of Blacks Law Dictionary, and look up words and phrases you do not know, as once you know the legal language and court procedures the rest is easy.

Don

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**Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/183 "2010-08-02T20:45:44Z")

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> [@Don123](#):
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> …  
> But the point being Obama was adopted in Indonesia by his second father that made him a citizen of that country and by their law there is NO duel citizenship.
> 
> In these cases the child must, by US law, in order to keep his USA citizenship announce his USA citizenship by simply filling out a government form on his 18th birthday.
> 
> …

Can anyone find this form?

I did find this page which lists the means by which one can relinquish their US Citizenship.

> **[8 U.S. Code § 1481 - Loss of nationality by native-born or naturalized...](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1481)**

I didn’t see anything about being adopted by a citizen of a different country.

This page from the US State Department does confirm that there is no “dual citizenship”.

> **[404 - Page Not Found](https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/404.html)**

But that intent is that someone who is a citizen of the United States is a citizen regardless of whatever other citizenships they may hold. That is, there is nothing special about being a dual citizen, to the United States you are just a US citizen. Meaning someone who became a citizen of another country (e.g. by adoption) would retain their US citizenship regardless.

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> [@Don123](#):
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> If there is a valid question as to a person’s US birth citizenship I would error in favor of disallowing that person to run for presidency until ALL the facts are put on the table in plain sight of the voting public. It may be clamed a person is not born in the USA, by any one, but I would give way to the physical evidence that is undisputed. The standard would be “beyond a reasonable doubt” and NOT by the preponderance of the evidence. A high public office demands a high standard of qualifying evidence.

You have this exactly backwards. The onus of proof is on those making the accusations. Always.

**Don123** , I accuse you of committing a series of grisly murders in 1997. You must now prove to me, with physical evidence that is undisputed, that you did _not_ commit those murders, or it’s the needle for you.

Fortunately for you, that ain’t the way it works.

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**Don** : please show me where John McCain put his birth certificate out in public for everyone to view.

And what do you say to the fact that there is no record, other than this mysterious birth certificate that only the McCain campaign would show selected people, that McCain was born at the hospital he says he was born at?

[Read this.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/01/AR2008050103224_2.html)

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> Curiously enough, there is no record of McCain’s birth in the Panama Canal Zone Health Department’s bound birth registers, which are publicly available at the National Archives in College Park. A search of the “Child Born Abroad” records of the U.S. consular service for August 1936 included many U.S. citizens born in the Canal Zone but did not turn up any mention of John McCain.

One could say that there is far more evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii than there is that McCain was born in Panama.

Why has McCain covered up these facts for so long?

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> **Don123** , I accuse you of committing a series of grisly murders in 1997. You must now prove to me, with physical evidence that is undisputed, that you did _not_ commit those murders, or it’s the needle for you.
> 
> Fortunately for you, that ain’t the way it works.

Ha. I did think of Gilbert Gottfried/Glenn Beck.

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> Has Obama spent a million dollars to hide his birth certificate?.

The simple answer is: NO.

There is no birth certificate. There is no birth certificate to hide. Obama was not born in Hawaii, so he has no Hawaii birth certificate. How could there be?

Obama spent (over) a million dollars hiding the fact that there is no birth certificate of obama being born in Hawaii.  
(all other records that might show where obama really was born, e.g. school records, marriage records, etc, are also kept hidden)

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**Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/188 "2010-08-02T21:51:29Z")

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> [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> > [@Don123](#):
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> > Things get sticky when a person is born to a USA parent then adopted as a child into a foreign country. This is covered by a USA government form that the child must fill out after their 18th birthday that is a “restatement” and claiming USA citizenship, there by passing over the common road of immigration.
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> > Don
> 
> This is not true. I just showed you where the State Department covers renunciation of your citizenship. It is VERY HARD to do.
> 
> A parent can not take away a child’s citizenship. Ever. I showed you.  
> [404 - Page Not Found](http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html)

I never said obama’s mother denounced his US citizenship, but the question remains can a person with duel citizenship be president?

The answer from this legal article is clearly NO. Special note—it is not a matter of politics, or who you like as president, or political campaigning, but a matter of law and the dedication to the USA as commander and chief of the military by birth circumstances.  
Fact, obama had duel citizenship, that disqualifies him from running for president or vice president. In order to have a valid case, or stand a chance of winning a case, you need both statutes and court case backing that compliment each other that is not overly broad.

What you lack is court case backing, just because obama was assumed born in the USA his father’s citizenship (England/Kenya) disqualifies him to be president. This does not do away with his USA citizenship (if any) it does mean the “situation” to what he was born in disqualifies him.  
Here is my reference:

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> Leo Donofrio is an attorney with 20 years’ experience. He is a partner in the law firm of Pidgeon & Donofrio and he authors the Natural Born Citizen blog.
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> Why Obama is ineligible – regardless of his birthplace  
> Posted: April 01, 2010  
> 1:00 am Eastern  
> By Leo C. Donofrio, Esq.  
> © 2010  
> The following discussion assumes President Obama was born in Hawaii and is a United States citizen.
> 
> The purpose of this article is to highlight judicial and historical evidence suggesting that a “natural born citizen” must be born in the United States to parents who are citizens.
> 
> By that definition, Obama is not eligible to be president. Therefore, his presidency and official administrative acts remain subject to being rendered void by the Supreme Court.
> 
> The relevant Obama admission
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> At the official Obama campaign website – [Fightthesmears.com](http://Fightthesmears.com) – just below the Certification of Live Birth (COLB) – the following admission was also published:
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> When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.'s children.
> 
> This was republished from a [Factcheck.org](http://Factcheck.org), article which further stated:
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> In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.

[For the most comprehensive etymological deconstruction of the term “natural born Citizen,” I strongly recommend, “What Is A Natural Born Citizen Of The United States?” by John Greschak.

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> [@Susanann](#):
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> > [@Revtim](#):
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> > Has Obama spent a million dollars to hide his birth certificate?.
> 
> The simple answer is: NO.
> 
> There is no birth certificate. There is no birth certificate to hide. Obama was not born in Hawaii, so he has no Hawaii birth certificate. How could there be?
> 
> Obama spent (over) a million dollars hiding the fact that there is no birth certificate of obama being born in Hawaii.  
> (all other records that might show where obama really was born, e.g. school records, marriage records, etc, are also kept hidden)

Orly?

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> [@Don123](#):
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> The only person who has failed is Obama, and his internet cheap copy of a live birth,
> 
> Don

God damn it, in how many threads do I have to mention that my own birth certificate from Pennsylvania, where I was born in 1962, looks exactly like Obama’s, down to the computer printing?

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It’s strange that this particular element of your screed bothers me more than anything else, but such as it is: The word is “dual”. Unless you are proposing that these theoretical citizenships are facing off at ten paces.

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> [@](#):
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> Fact, obama had duel citizenship

This is not fact, actually.

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The Constitution says only a natural born citizen may be President, but somehow you refer to lawyer’s opinions – keep in mind that lawyers are paid to lie for a living – who say that the Constitution doesn’t say what it actually says. These lawyers say a dual citizen cannot be president, but that’s not what the Constitution says.

Sounds like you’re making the Constitution into a living document.

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> [@Don123](#):
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> > [@E-Sabbath](#):
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> > This is not true. I just showed you where the State Department covers renunciation of your citizenship. It is VERY HARD to do.
> > 
> > A parent can not take away a child’s citizenship. Ever. I showed you.  
> > [404 - Page Not Found](http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html)
> 
> I never said obama’s mother denounced his US citizenship, but the question remains can a person with duel citizenship be president?
> 
> The answer from this legal article is clearly NO. Special note—it is not a matter of politics, or who you like as president, or political campaigning, but a matter of law and the dedication to the USA as commander and chief of the military by birth circumstances.  
> Fact, obama had duel citizenship, that disqualifies him from running for president or vice president. In order to have a valid case, or stand a chance of winning a case, you need both statutes and court case backing that compliment each other that is not overly broad.
> 
> What you lack is court case backing, just because obama was assumed born in the USA his father’s citizenship (England/Kenya) disqualifies him to be president. This does not do away with his USA citizenship (if any) it does mean the “situation” to what he was born in disqualifies him.  
> Here is my reference:\<snip\>

Oohh! I get to be first?

TLDR

Also too ridiculous. It’s a two-fer!

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A real birth certificate is called a “birth certificate”.

It also contains detailed information such as the name of the hospital where the birth occured, it names the attending physican, witnesses, the names of the parents, and their address. A real birth certificate can be easily checked out for its authenticity by comparing it with the hospital patient records, the hospital billing records, contacting the attending physician and the witnesses who were there for verification. Hospitals keep records forever!!!

It goes without saying, that if obama had been born in Hawaii in 1961, a black baby born from a white woman in 1961, a black baby who later became president, then you would not have to look for any doctor and nurses and interns and orderlies and nurses aides etc who were there - because they would already be bragging about it and already selling their stories.

The reason why no doctor, no nurse, no hospital worker, no neighbor, no relative, no taxi driver, no amublance driver, etc. has come forward to verify obama’s birth, is because there was no birth, there was no doctor, there was no nurse…nobody saw it…because obama was not born in any hospital in Hawaii.  
If we already know these things about somebody, then there would be no real reason to hide a birth certificate since their would no longer be any reason to not show information which is already in the public domain.

If you already knew my date and time of birth, if you already knew my parents names and addresses, if you already knew my hospital, if you already knew my attending physician, if you already knew the names of the people who witnessed my birth…then it would be beyond stupid to spend 2 million dollars to not show you my birth certificate which has nothing on it that you dont already know.

In such a case, the only reason to not show a birth certificate, the only reason to spend millions of dollars to hide, is because you dont have one.  
Lastly, all of the **legal** American presidents would have been proud to prove that they were legal American citizens. All of the legal past American presidents have been proud that they were American citizens.

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John McCain’s parents were both American citizens, so he is an American citizen. John McCain was born in Panama, so according to Panamanian law, he is also a Panamanian citizens.

So according to your “dual citizen” theory, John McCain was ineligible to run for president.

Except the Constitution doesn’t specify that presidential candidates not be dual citizens, only that they are natural born citizens (or a citizen at the time the constitution was ratified). This term is not defined in the constitution, but the only reasonable reading is that it means someone who was a citizen from birth.

John McCain was a citizen from birth, because his parents were US citizens.

Barack Obama was a citizen from birth, because he was born in the Hawaii, which is part of the United States, and according to the sacred constitution, all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> John McCain was a citizen from birth, because his parents were US citizens.
> 
> Barack Obama was a citizen from birth, because he was born in the Hawaii, which is part of the United States, and according to the sacred constitution, all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

1. obama was **not** born in Hawaii
2. Obama’s father was \*\*not \*\*an American citizen, but rather, his father was a British citizen which prevented obama from being an American
3. Obama’s mother did not reside in the USA long enough to give American citizenship to her baby

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> [@Susanann](#):
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> In such a case, the only reason to not show a birth certificate, the only reason to spend millions of dollars to hide, is because you dont have one.  
> Lastly, all of the **legal** American presidents would have been proud to prove that they were legal American citizens. All of the legal past American presidents have been proud that they were American citizens.

How do you know Obama spend millions of dollars to hide his birth certificate? I understand that you believe it to be true, but what evidence do you have that it is true?

For which other presidential candidates have you seen copies of their birth certificates? For instance, have you seen a copy of Sarah Palin’s birth certificate? Or McCain’s? Or Bush’s? Or Clinton’s? Or Reagan’s?

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**Don123** , we try to be respectful of copyrights on this site. Please don’t repost entire articles. If you want to cite someone, use a short quote and a link.

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**Post date:** [August 2, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/200 "2010-08-02T22:27:42Z")

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> [@Susanann](#):
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> 1. obama was **not** born in Hawaii

Repeating something that is wrong does not make it so. Clearly, the evidence is against you here.

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> 1. Obama’s father was \*\*not \*\*an American citizen, but rather, his father was a British citizen which prevented obama from being an American

Actually, it does no such thing.

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> 1. Obama’s mother did not reside in the USA long enough to give American citizenship to her baby

Since he was born in the US this is moot.

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