# Has Obama spent a million dollars to hide his birth certificate? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 9, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877 "2009-08-09T22:44:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/301 "2010-08-03T17:41:55Z")
> [@Don123](#): > > Ok so here is how it happened > > [http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born\_in\_the\_usa.html](http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html) > We asked the Obama campaign about the date stamp and the blacked-out certificate number. The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that’s when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and “all the records we could get our hands on” according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn’t release its copy until 2008, after speculation began to appear on the Internet questioning Obama’s citizenship. The campaign then rushed to release the document, and the rush is responsible for the blacked-out certificate number. Says Shauna: “[We] couldn’t get someone on the phone in Hawaii to tell us whether the number represented some secret information, and we erred on the side of blacking it out. Since then we’ve found out it’s pretty irrelevant for the outside world.” The document we looked at did have a certificate number; it is 151 1961 - 010641 > Don: > > Ha ha ha, you could not make this crap up if you tried. So from the text above, here Obama is running for president with NO idea that he has to show proof of birth in the USA—but yet he has a law degree from Harvard. > > Obama is giving speeches and raising money, kissing babes I mean babies, and all of a sudden—from the evil right whites— comes a strange thought, HEY were you born in the USA? > Obama responds, “UDUAH— UH –uh, YES!” (OH HELL WHERE DID I PUT THAT DAMN PAPER WORK?”) > > So his staff gets into high gear to clean up Obama’s office, and no birth certificate found. > > So Obama’s staff, that flushes his toilet, contacts the State of Hawaii and request (in an orgasmic heated rush) all the paper work they have on Obama. And bingo, up pops a photo copy of a life birth certificate, as if we did not know Obama was a live birth. > > But a strange thing happened on the way to press meeting with the NEW and improved digital copy of a live birth certificate— the code numbers got blacked out and NO ONE saw it! It must be God’s will! It is a secret code! NO one will notice this big blacked out area on the corner. > > Obama did not even look at the certificate and if he did, they do not teach how to read numbers at Harvard law school so it must be Bush’s fault. Whites are such racist. The RUSH did it! You know the radio guy. > > But NO matter the certificate was posted on the net for the world to see and the damned, evil-minded, white-right said, “HEY, what is that big black blotch on the corner of the paper, there are supposed to be code numbers.” > > Numbers, OH you want numbers— not a problem. Obama is 53 point ahead in the polls. NO the other numbers, the ones God made disappear from the birth certificate, because we were to busy and not watching it. — OH those numbers, we put them some where—Oh here they are as Obama pulls out phone book and give out zip codes, or what ever popped into his Harvard trained mind. But it is not relivant, the stupid public will believe anything. > It is a good thing Obama is a good community organizer, maybe he could organize his paper work knowing that running for president will require proof of birth in the USA. But what is a Harvard Law Graduate, that sat on the Harvard law Review news paper to do? > What can we say other than, Obama is so heavenly minded he is no earthly good. He had NO idea before making public his birth certificate to call the state of Hawaii (more than once if they do not answer the phone at lunch time) and ask— what are those numbers on the corner of the paper? Is that a code that only God knows about, and NO human can mention it? > > Harvard does not teach how to do research to students that arrive by Affirmative Action. And by the way–you sure you have the date right this time? > > Don So wait… You post a link to a site that rationally, coherently, utterly and thoroughly torpedoes your own argument, then attempt to refute it with a barely literate, unintelligible rant about babies and toilets and zip codes and affirmative action? It’s a wonder you aren’t changing more minds here. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/302 "2010-08-03T17:45:11Z")
Look, here in the U-nited States of America, the real enforcers of the rules are the American people. If we really don’t think Obama is qualified to be president, then there’s a pretty easy way to not make him president. If you can’t convince people not to vote for him because he’s not an American citizen, well, it turns out you lost that argument. Take it up with the American people. You haven’t convinced anyone here, so I don’t know why you think it will work better next time. Obama was put on the ballot in 50 states by 50 state election authorities, so none of them doubted his credentials either. He could be impeached by congress if you convince them that he’s ineligible, but there’s no movement there, even among republicans (because they’re too scared that the blacks will riot, I guess). So either get the election authorities involved to not put him on the ballot, or get the courts involved to rule him ineligible, or get the voters not to vote for him, or get the electors not to vote for him, or get congress to impeach him. If you can’t do any of those things, well, Obama is president. Of course, that doesn’t mean you’re right. Of course the reason you couldn’t do any of those things is because you’re wrong. I’m just saying that even if you were right, to prevent Obama from becoming president you would have had to do one of those things, and you haven’t. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/303 "2010-08-03T17:48:53Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > > [@Wendell\_Wagner](#): > > > > Don123 writes: > > > > \> Palin also put her birth records on public file as being born in Alaska to USA > > \> parents. > > > > Don123, you never do any research, do you? Palin was born in Idaho. > > I dunno. Since Don seems to have this “fact,” is this not proof that Palin and her cronies lied? 😃 The fact that we’ve discovered an inconsistency that raises questions all but proves that Palin was actually born in Kenya. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/304 "2010-08-03T17:50:08Z")
> [@Cagey\_Drifter](#): > > Can I just ask, **Don123** , aside from the legal technicalities involved with respect to presidential qualifications, why does it matter where someone is born? It seems like a rather silly point to attempt to invalidate a presidency on such technical grounds rather than on grounds of competency. I have a cousin born in Malaysia, but he’s been here his entire life except for a few months. Frankly, I think the fact that he’s studied foreign relations at Georgetown makes him more qualified to be president than a lot of people who have spent their entire lives here. I always wondered why they put in that clause. I think it was to keep any European prince from being installed as “president” of the U.S. – the country was newly independent then and very touchy on the point. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/305 "2010-08-03T17:53:58Z")
Not _any_ European prince. Specifically, King George, who in some circles was still quite popular. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/306 "2010-08-03T17:59:39Z")
You know, post #286 could be used in a textbook on how not to argue a convincing case. Seriously, **Don** , walk away, man, just walk away. ---
**Author:** ![Don123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19adc/32.png) [@Don123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don123)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/307 "2010-08-03T18:08:02Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > [@Don123](#): > > > > So from the text above, here Obama is running for president with NO idea that he has to show proof of birth in the USA > > Show it to who? Since when ahs any Presidential candidate had to produce his birth certificate? Mccain didn’t. Palin didn’t. GWB never did. neither did Reagan. Where do you get this crap? How could Obama have forseen this particular crackpot conspiracy theory before it happened? It has absolutely no evidentiary basis, after all, and there is no more reason to question his birthplace than to question anyone else’s who’s ever run. > > Was the US Department of State in on the conspiracy in 1967? Answer that. Don: So any one from the world at large can come to the USA and run for president without constitutional restraints---- OK, I didn’t know that. (ha ha ha) You must part of that new world order; all international boundaries no longer exist. You must be an illegal Mexican in the USA—ha ha ha You are funny. And YES the senate had voted on a resolution that on examining the evidence declared McCain is eligible for the high office. Now why don’t they do the same for obama? I know it is the evil, racist, white right conspiracy set out to dethrone God-obama. Talk about closing your ears to the facts– [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/01/AR2008050103224.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/01/AR2008050103224.html) By Michael Dobbs Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, May 2, 2008 The Senate has unanimously declared John McCain a natural-born citizen, eligible to be president of the United States. (snip) …that McCain is a natural-born citizen because the United States held sovereignty over the Panama Canal Zone at the time of his birth, on Aug. 29, 1936; because he was born on a U.S. military base; and because his parents were U.S. citizens. (snip) …his father was legaly deployed to Panama while on active military duty. (snip) …A senior official of the McCain campaign showed a reporter a copy of the senator’s birth certificate issued by Canal Zone health authorities, recording his birth in the Coco Solo “family hospital.” Don continues: So we have the hands on copy of McCain’s birth records and the Senate has unanimously (including all the Democrats) declared John McCain a natural-born citizen eligible to be president of the United States. OK I’m satisfied, I’m just trying to help you out by doing your home work. Don ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/308 "2010-08-03T18:16:16Z")
> [@](#): > > You are funny. And YES the senate had voted on a resolution that on examining the evidence declared McCain is eligible for the high office. > Now why don’t they do the same for obama? I know it is the evil, racist, white right conspiracy set out to dethrone God-obama. Because in McCain’s case, there was a legitimate question as to whether he was a natural-born citizen, but in Obama’s case, there isn’t. It’s the same reason the Senate never resolved that Reagan was eligible, or Clinton, or either Bush. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/309 "2010-08-03T18:21:16Z")
> [@Don123](#): > > You are funny. And YES the senate had voted on a resolution that on examining the evidence declared McCain is eligible for the high office. And members of Congress had the power to challenge the validity of the election of President Obama when the Electoral College presented their votes. They did not. Therefore, the issue is closed. Congress, by not acting to stop the vote count, has made its determination that the election is valid. Obama is the President. Full stop. By the way, when you begin your posts with “Don:” who are you addressing? ---
**Author:** ![Cagey\_Drifter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@Cagey\_Drifter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cagey_Drifter)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/310 "2010-08-03T18:22:22Z")
Does anyone know if there’s something like Poe’s Law for conservative nutballism? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/311 "2010-08-03T18:26:53Z")
> [@Don123](#): > > So any one from the world at large can come to the USA and run for president without constitutional restraints---- OK, I didn’t know that. (ha ha ha) Yes, anyone can run for president. The Constitution does not set any limits on who can run. Some people are ineglible to _serve_, which might make it pointless for them to run and prevents them from being put on the ballot in some states. But they can run if they so choose. The Socialist Workers Party candidate in 2008 was Roger Calero, who was born in Nicaragua and is a resident alien, not a citizen. And just for good measure, he’s a convicted felon. He got about 7,200 votes in the general election. ---
**Author:** ![Don123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19adc/32.png) [@Don123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don123)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/312 "2010-08-03T18:34:32Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Your cite is a paranoid, right wing conspiracy blog that links to other right wing conspiracy blogs to cite it’s claims. I’m not going down that rabbit hole. > > How do you respond to the fact that the state of Hawaii has confirmed it has the orginal certificate? The additional confirmation by the State Department? The birth announcements? > > I think I’m pretty much done trying to argue with you. You clearly inhabit your own reality where facts can gain no purchase. Hope that works out for you. Since when is the Hawaiian state statute a right wing conspiracy blog? Enquiring minds want to know. Don Pay close attention to the following Hawaiian legal statute: “[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child. (b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/313 "2010-08-03T18:36:58Z")
> [@Don123](#): > > Since when is the Hawaiian state statute a right wing conspiracy blog? I already pointed out that your cite says “birth certificate,” not “certificate of live birth.” And you also ignored his main point - which has been made by many other posters (including me): > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > How do you respond to the fact that the state of Hawaii has confirmed it has the orginal certificate? The additional confirmation by the State Department? The birth announcements? You also said there should be lots of people who were involved in the birth who are selling their stories. A cite was then provided showing that the obstetrician who delivered him is dead, and there is a teacher who discussed the birth with the obstetrician at the time and remembers the conversation. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/314 "2010-08-03T18:39:22Z")
> [@Don123](#): > > > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > > > Your cite is a paranoid, right wing conspiracy blog that links to other right wing conspiracy blogs to cite it’s claims. I’m not going down that rabbit hole. > > > > How do you respond to the fact that the state of Hawaii has confirmed it has the orginal certificate? The additional confirmation by the State Department? The birth announcements? > > > > I think I’m pretty much done trying to argue with you. You clearly inhabit your own reality where facts can gain no purchase. Hope that works out for you. > > Since when is the Hawaiian state statute a right wing conspiracy blog? > > Enquiring minds want to know. > > Don > > Pay close attention to the following Hawaiian legal statute: > > “[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. > > (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child. > > (b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate. That does **not** authorize the director of health to certify **as born in Hawaii** any baby who wasn’t. What is your point? ---
**Author:** ![Don123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19adc/32.png) [@Don123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don123)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/315 "2010-08-03T18:40:55Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > > [@Don123](#): > > > > So any one from the world at large can come to the USA and run for president without constitutional restraints---- OK, I didn’t know that. (ha ha ha) > > Yes, anyone can run for president. The Constitution does not set any limits on who can run. Some people are ineglible to _serve_, which might make it pointless for them to run and prevents them from being put on the ballot in some states. But they can run if they so choose. The Socialist Workers Party candidate in 2008 was Roger Calero, who was born in Nicaragua and is a resident alien, not a citizen. And just for good measure, he’s a convicted felon. He got about 7,200 votes in the general election. Oh get it, I’m learning stuff all the time. So one person robs a bank, so every can do it–its LEGAL! It sounds like you support Waters and Rangel. Don ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/316 "2010-08-03T18:42:41Z")
> [@Don123](#): > > Oh get it, I’m learning stuff all the time. > > So one person robs a bank, so every can do it–its LEGAL! This could not be more irrelevant. If you want to convince someone, try sticking to your argument. > [@](#): > > It sounds like you support Waters and Rangel. Nope. Not Rangel, anyway. I don’t know much about Waters’ situation. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/317 "2010-08-03T18:52:18Z")
> [@Don123](#): > > Since when is the Hawaiian state statute a right wing conspiracy blog? > > Enquiring minds want to know. > > Don > > Pay close attention to the following Hawaiian legal statute: > > “[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. > > (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child. > > (b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate. You forgot the last past. (c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1] The “1982” annotation is the year that that law was passed. Moreover, Obama’s birth certificate was filed on August 8, 1961, four days after his birth. Moreover moreover, that does absolutely nothing to explain why the birth certificate (excuse me, the “certification of live birth”) shows his date of birth to be August 4, 1961, at 7:24 PM, on the island of Oahu, in the city of Honolulu. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/318 "2010-08-03T18:53:01Z")
**Don** , you said in Post 286: [Quote=Don123] So from the text above, here Obama is running for president with NO idea that he has to show proof of birth in the USA—but yet he has a law degree from Harvard. [/Quote] You should be able to answer the following simple questions, then: 1. To what legal authority must a candidate for President present his or her proof of birth in the USA? 2. At what point in the process of running for President must this be done? 3. Was this done for Presidents Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton and Bush 43? For the first two questions, and since your credibility as an authority on this subject is highly suspect, I would prefer to see a reference to a specific document or legislative item. Thanks in advance. ---
**Author:** ![Hakuna\_Matata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hakuna\_Matata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hakuna_Matata)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/319 "2010-08-03T19:13:59Z")
> [@Susanann](#): > > > [@Chronos](#): > > > > OK, I’ve already posted a link to Obama’s birth certificate. If McCain showed his, too, then give us a link. > > A “Certificate of Live Birth” is **not** a “birth certificate”. > > Honolulu handed out Certificates of Live Birth like candy on Halloween. obama’s Indonesian-born sister has a Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth, the president of China-born Sun Yet Sen has a Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth. > . Wow–you still trotting out this bull Susanann? I am still waiting for your response from last time you trotted this out. Don’t you get embarrassed about not backing up your story? So again as asked below, can you provide a cite to what you posted above and below? I have been waiting patiently since February for you to back up your claims. Methinks I will be waiting awhile longer don’t you? [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12116914&postcount=34](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12116914&postcount=34) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877/320 "2010-08-03T19:22:16Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > By the way, when you begin your posts with “Don:” who are you addressing? Why himself, of course. He’s the only person here that believes his blather. Except **Susanann** , who is probably just another of the voices in his head. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-obama-spent-a-million-dollars-to-hide-his-birth-certificate/505877.md?page=17)