# Has the Dallas tragedy, and other protests/violence killed the Clinton email scandal? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 10, 2016, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571 "2016-07-10T15:12:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/21 "2016-07-10T18:39:17Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Word on the street has it that MoDo’s had a hardon for Hillary ever since Bill wouldn’t give her a piece of ass back in the '90s after she’d thrown herself at him hard for months. It would be irresponsible not to speculate. Is there a source for this? I hate Maureen Dowd and desperately want this tale to be true, but right now it’s only your assertion. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/22 "2016-07-10T18:48:08Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Is there a source for this? I hate Maureen Dowd and desperately want this tale to be true, but right now it’s only your assertion. Your mom pillow talked it to Ukulele Ike. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/23 "2016-07-10T23:53:45Z")
I don’t think the email scandal will ever completely go away; it will just be used by the opposition in different ways. The GOP hoped that there would be enough for a prosecution – that didn’t happen. But that doesn’t mean that the content of those emails can’t be used against her later, at more opportune times. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/24 "2016-07-11T00:45:14Z")
Clearly, the Dallas shooting was a double false flag - Obama gets a chance to grab guns, and Hilary gets the heat off her for her scandalous email issues! ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/25 "2016-07-11T01:19:03Z")
the Clinton email thing is not a “scandal,” it was a distraction. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/26 "2016-07-11T01:37:40Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > The press has to report _something_, in its constant quest to satisfy those who are sure Both Sides Do It. And for her, that’s all they got. It’s really not. The Clinton Foundation / State Department conflicts of interest ae the bigger story; we just hoped investigating the emails would turn something up to be prosecuted there. And of course there are the Goldman Sachs speeches; helping grow Islamic State in Libya; supporting a coup in Honduras, and _ **did I just say she grew Daesh in Libya?** _ Oh, that’s right, she did! The emails might have been useful for what they revealed. Security sloppiness in itself is not a major issue. Thankfully, we can now move on to why she really has no business being President. (Arguably a bit late for anyone that does. :cough: ) \_ > [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Word on the street has it that MoDo’s had a hardon for Hillary ever since Bill wouldn’t give her a piece of ass back in the '90s after she’d thrown herself at him hard for months. It would be irresponsible not to speculate. > [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Is there a source for this? I hate Maureen Dowd and desperately want this tale to be true, but right now it’s only your assertion. Ike has been slandering the New York Times ever since they got sold to Rupert Murdoch; he wanted them to go to Jimmy Buffett for some reason, but I wouldn’t care to speculate why. Wow, this kind of completely baseless assertion is fun! ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/27 "2016-07-11T02:21:52Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Ike has been slandering the New York Times ever since they got sold to Rupert Murdoch; he wanted them to go to Jimmy Buffett for some reason, but I wouldn’t care to speculate why. No way to tell whether this is a whoosh or a serious statement, but just in case: The Wall Street Journal got sold to Rupert Murdoch, not the Times. Whatever you think you’re saying, though (and I’m honestly baffled), I’m another one who finds that Maureen Dowd used to be an interesting columnist who destroyed her career by never getting past the 90s. The Clintons were a great target, but other stuff has happened since. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/28 "2016-07-11T11:28:53Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Your mom pillow talked it to Ukulele Ike. Dude, I’m tempted to warn you for that but I can’t even figure out what the hell you mean. Keep the surrealism out of debates, please. ---
**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/29 "2016-07-11T15:03:11Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > That’s all well-and-good and idealistic, but theory runs into application here. I think it’s exactly the opposite. In theory maybe you might excuse Clinton on the basis of ‘everyone does it’ and/or ‘the classification system is a mess’, doubtful IMO but mainly irrelevant to the issue here, the political reality that the FBI director said she in particular was ‘extremely careless with classified information’. And he noted a number of points where Clinton said things publicly about the incident which weren’t true according to the FBI. But, major but, he recommended against charging her with a crime. So again relative to the possible downside, great outcome for her. Relative to some narrative about how mishandling classified info is some non-issue and everyone should find better things to do than worry about it (including Comey I guess?), damaging outcome for her. Damaging enough to make a difference, who knows? ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/30 "2016-07-11T15:45:32Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Yes, this mass shooting of police officers is just the break the Clinton campaign has been looking for. Black Violence Matters. She’s likely to need her own Sister Souljah opportunity soon. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/31 "2016-07-11T18:30:23Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > No way to tell whether this is a whoosh or a serious statement, but just in case: The Wall Street Journal got sold to Rupert Murdoch, not the Times. I was making fun of\*\* Ukelele Ike.\*\* Not remotely a serious statement. But I stand corrected on NYT’s ownership. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/32 "2016-07-11T22:58:30Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > we just hoped investigating the emails would turn something up to be prosecuted there. Who is “we”? :dubious: > [@](#): > > And of course there are the Goldman Sachs speeches; helping grow Islamic State in Libya; supporting a coup in Honduras, and _ **did I just say she grew Daesh in Libya?** _ Oh, that’s right, she did! Oh, never mind. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/33 "2016-07-12T04:02:25Z")
Oh, that’s right, there is no IS foothold in Libya, and if there is, you can’t prove US intervention had anything to do with it! Qaddafi was on the way out anyway! [/sarcasm] ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/34 "2016-07-12T15:57:35Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Oh, that’s right, there is no IS foothold in Libya, and if there is, you can’t prove US intervention had anything to do with it! Qaddafi was on the way out anyway! [/sarcasm] Was I dreaming then when I saw the footage of a long line of people on the Libyan shore being executed by ISIS? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/35 "2016-07-12T17:33:15Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > It seems Clinton and the email scandal have fallen from the news due to the recent events in Dallas, etc. Will the Republicans ever get any traction out of this now or is it an opportunity lost for them? > > It seems you actually have to search to find any information on it now on the major news sites. I’m betting its traction is lost now. Obama’s AG Lynch was speaking to a U.S. Congressional committee about this scandal, Hillary’s carelessness, Bill’s suspicious airport hanger visit, and the Justice Dept’s decision making, just this morning. All of the media outlets covered it. It seems you’ve lost your bet. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/36 "2016-07-12T17:41:03Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Obama’s AG Lynch was speaking to a U.S. Congressional committee about this scandal, Hillary’s carelessness, Bill’s suspicious airport hanger visit, and the Justice Dept’s decision making, just this morning. All of the media outlets covered it. It seems you’ve lost your bet. The Loser’s Party had already announced they would continue the witch hunt as soon as Comey stopped talking. They couldn’t very well cancel the farce without losing face. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/37 "2016-07-12T18:49:35Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > I was making fun of\*\* Ukelele Ike.\*\* Not remotely a serious statement. But I stand corrected on NYT’s ownership. Hey, watch that stuff. I’m delicate. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/38 "2016-07-12T21:58:13Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Obama’s AG Lynch was speaking to a U.S. Congressional committee about this scandal, Hillary’s carelessness, Bill’s suspicious airport hanger visit, and the Justice Dept’s decision making, just this morning. All of the media outlets covered it. It seems you’ve lost your bet. Already answered. > [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > The right will continue to bring this up every day from now through the end of Clinton’s eight years in office, but it was DOA as a major impediment as soon as the report was issued. ---
**Author:** ![Chihuahua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@Chihuahua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chihuahua)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/39 "2016-07-13T21:58:16Z")
I thought the fact that there was no scandal killed the scandal. The staggering incompetence of Trey Gowdy and the Republican’s willingness to turn on the Republican FBI director certainly helped. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571/40 "2016-07-14T01:39:31Z")
Ultimately, what killed the Clinton email kerfluffle (and what kills any other Clinton kerfluffles unless and until one rises to the level of an obvious genuine scandal) is the reputation for wolf-crying the Republicans gave themselves during the Bill Clinton years. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-dallas-tragedy-and-other-protests-violence-killed-the-clinton-email-scandal/759571.md?page=3)