Where did you get the information that he lost several pounds?
The BBC article reported “a slight drop in his weight”.
Guys I agree that what he did seems to be impossible but it seems to have been controlled pretty well by the doctors. I don’t see a hidden angenda for them here but then again I don’t really know. The experiment was done under “constant video surveillance” and according to them he didn’t go to the bathroom once. That alone is very impessive.
Right, and there is a difference between urine that is drunk and processed by the digestive system and that which would be directly reabsorbed into the blood from the kidneys, or bladder.
And there are several here who complain that Q.E.D. doesn’t have enough information about the so-called “clinical study” but who seem willing to write that it seems “valid” to them.
Media reports are not a reliable indicator of the rigor of a clinical study. You won’t go broke betting on the phoniness of such “clinical studies” as those that confirm that someone hasn’t eaten anything or drunk water for years on end. Take any odds whatever and you will be a winner.
What I hate is the medias’ general habit of reporting things that would be astonding if true, but then we never hear another word about it; presumably because it was total BS. In addition to a man supposedly being able to survive without eating, I seen:
-scientist claims to have developed anti-gravity device.
-suspected Bigfoot hair sent to lab for analysis.
-mysterious metal fragments thought to be debris of crashed UFO.
about the only hyped-up claim that I can remember being followed up adequately was the cold fusion flap.
The scientists don’t have to be ‘in on it’ to have contributed to a scam. They just simply have to be taken in like everyone else.
Scientists have a long history of being faked by con men. Simply put, dealing with dishonest subjects puts them outside their area of expertise, and they are as likely to be duped as anyone else.
This is why many con men have performed their tricks in front of scientists, but then absolutely refuse to be tested by people like James Randi.
Some ways I can think of that this might have been faked - a bladder of water inserted into his rectum (or just water taken in and held that way - eww). If they checked that and he has long hair, perhaps he has some thin tubes filled with water woven into his hair. Or perhaps he was using another body cavity or holding something under folds of skin that couldn’t be seen.
I also saw somewhere that he was allowed to rinse his mouth out, but that the scientists were careful to measure the volume of liquid before and after to make sure that he never swallowed any. This sets my alarm bells off, because it sounds a bit convenient that he needs to ‘rinse’ his mouth in the first place, and the perfect opportunity to perform some form of fakery.
I didn’t want to get into issues of physiology, but given how the kidneys work, I’m not sure what you mean when you say there’s a difference. What difference exactly, would there be, and why would they be relevant? I am genuinely curious about your point.
This gentleman is giving off normal body heat without any fuel source, exerting work on his environment, producing urine and resorbing the water – and yet everything else in urine isn’t building up in his bladder either. His kidneys (among the most energy intensive organs of basic metabolism) are still operating - but they aren’t accomplishing anything, since apparently all their products are completely resorbed (into the bloodstream by the nephons or whatever alien organ he’s got instead) - though he produces urine his bladder never fills up with anything. The toxins he resorbs must somehow be reprocessed into needed materials.
I very much wish I could give you link. I was following this in the Indian newsites when it was going on, but the articles expired.
I very much regret not having saved them to hard drive, but this was before it became a ‘big story’. I often get into enjoyable discussions with a group of friends over tehse types of stories, but most of them are flash in the pan tales that never come up again.
Not “eww” at all - in fact, remarkably convenient. Many Yogis have demonstrated the ability to take water in via the anus and reverse peristalsis all the way up the GI tract. It’s hardly more unbelievable than a good sword swallower… In fact, you don’t have to be a yogi to do it -like sword swallowing, many Westerners have taught themselves to take in water through the anus, and it is part of of some non-mainstream cleansing practices
One of the primary functions of the colon also happens to be water resorption from the feces. Once you master the relatively easy task of letting water into your anus, your colon will absorb it, as if you’d taken it in through the mouth. “Sit and sip” as it were.
I really can’t detail the chemistry because I’m a poor chemist, to say the least. However, I really think that urine that is taken into the stomach and acted on by the stomach acid has to have a different chemistry than that taken directly into the blood from the kidney. In fact, I’m not sure how the urine would get into the bloodstream from a functioning kidney. And since the argument is that the liquid, at least, from the urine is “resorbed” why don’t you want to get into the physiology? If you know anything at all about it, we could use some facts about it.
And the point is that I don’t think that drinking a cup of urine is in any way equivalent to reabsorbing all of it into the blood stream via the kidneys. So I sort of wonder what your point was in bringing it up.
Are you saying that you think this description is true, or just that this is what is reported?
If this is really happening then maybe he is an escaped alien from the Roswell incident.
Do you have cites for any of this?
Can they reverse peristalsis on demand and all the way so they they could completely reverse ends? Even P. T. Barnum would be in awe.
I can fucking guarantee that any study that yields as a result free, endless energy is wrong. I can further guarantee that no man has lived for years without food or water. And finally I can guarantee that anyone who believes such things is a fool who will likely be parted from his money soon and fairly easily.
-Word.
The man cannot have grown from childhood without eating, and he cannot survive now without eating and drinking. He is, after all, human, and even non-human organisms also must take in food and water in order to survive.
Therefore what he’s doing is a trick, and the only thing left to figure out is how the trick is done.
The magician up on stage does NOT saw the woman in half, therefore it’s a trick. All you have to do is figure out how the trick is done.
Vulgarity laden flames in the guise of a post aside, are you saying should some future study yeild the means to develope technology to separate virtual particles before they cancle each other out is wrong?