# Has the Kim Jong Un regime in North Korea been overthrown? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 5, 2014, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450 "2014-10-05T12:29:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/41 "2014-10-09T17:56:02Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > This hereditary-dynasty business is so un-Communist . . . Do they even call themselves Communists any more? No. They differentiated their economic system from regular communism early on. Or, rather, they said it was different. Either way, they don’t think of themselves as communist in the Marx/Lenin sense, and they haven’t for a very long time. ---
**Author:** ![JesterX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JesterX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JesterX)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2014, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/42 "2014-10-10T16:52:45Z")
Looks like Kim Jong Un missed an important national event that he’s never missed before [Cite](http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/10/world/asia/kim-jong-un-north-korea/index.html?hpt=hp_t1). So he’s OFFICIALLY out of action. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/43 "2014-10-10T17:16:55Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > The latest [del]tea leaf reading[/del] [del]divining of entrails[/del] speculation is that Kim’s sister is, at least temporarily, more or less in charge. From [CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/08/world/kim-jong-un-sister/index.html?hpt=hp_c2): Anyone want to guess what her deal is? We the Chubby Leader is into cheese and Henessey, what do you want to bet that she’s super into Hello Kitty or One Direction? ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/44 "2014-10-10T20:10:40Z")
Has anybody heard if his sister was present at the ceremonies? Was she treated like the leader? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/45 "2014-10-10T20:17:46Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Anyone want to guess what her deal is? We the Chubby Leader is into cheese and Henessey, what do you want to bet that she’s super into Hello Kitty or One Direction? Hennessy was his father’s drink of choice. From what I’ve read, Kim the Younger prefers Johnnie Walker Blue. ---
**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2014, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/46 "2014-10-10T20:20:02Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > Well if the Dear Leader has been overthrown in a brutal coup and tossed into a dank jail cell and murdered in some horrendous fashion … it just couldn’t happen to a more deserving guy. Some of the ISIX folks are on that list, above and below. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2014, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/47 "2014-10-10T20:36:33Z")
> [@Frazzled](#): > > Has anybody heard if his sister was present at the ceremonies? Was she treated like the leader? I can’t info on whether she was there, but if she was it doesn’t seem that she was treated as leader. The more credible sources are still thinking it’s health problems: “Kim Yong-hyun, a North Korea expert at Dongguk University in Seoul, dismissed those rumors and said he believed that Mr. Kim’s trouble was “not political but orthopedic.” That’s taken from [today’s NYTimes article on the issue](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/11/world/asia/in-north-korean-media-no-sign-of-kim-jong-un-at-key-ritual.html?_r=0). So who knows what’s really going on, but it would seem premature to assume that there has been a major power shift. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/48 "2014-10-11T00:45:13Z")
Maybe he’s just checked into a spa to shed some weight, and the new, slimmer version will debut to the world soon. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/49 "2014-10-11T02:13:21Z")
Even if his discomfort is mortal, he’ll come back as a zombie and lead them as the Un-dead. One never knows what goes on inside NK. Those that talk don’t know and those that know don’t talk. I think there’s a bit more than an issue with the legs, surely they could prop him up like FDR if that’s all it was. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/50 "2014-10-11T02:15:46Z")
Maybe his people got hungry enough to enjoy some long pig. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/51 "2014-10-11T02:53:58Z")
> [@susan](#): > > Maybe his people got hungry enough to enjoy some long pig. Those cute female body guards will make Korean barbecue of him? Where will they get that much sweet chilli garlic sauce? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/52 "2014-10-11T15:12:26Z")
> [@](#): > > Jin-sung defected from North Korea 10 years ago, but told CNN that his “highly placed sources” state that the real power has assumed control: the Organization and Guidance Department. Ha, Kim Jong-Un has been thrown down the memory hole. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/53 "2014-10-14T00:29:28Z")
**He’s Baaack!!!** ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/54 "2014-10-14T00:40:07Z")
That was helpful. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/55 "2014-10-14T03:02:26Z")
Assuming you’re being sarcastic - It wasn’t worth posting a link to an article because the news stories were changing by the minute. It would make more sense to just google when you saw the news. And how is it not helpful to know that he showed up. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/56 "2014-10-14T03:23:59Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > Assuming you’re being sarcastic - It wasn’t worth posting a link to an article because the news stories were changing by the minute. It would make more sense to just google when you saw the news. > > And how is it not helpful to know that he showed up. I am offended by large fonts. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/57 "2014-10-14T15:06:10Z")
sorry ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/58 "2014-10-14T16:39:34Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > sorry 🙂 This forum requires that you wait 60 seconds between posts. Please try again in 3 seconds. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/59 "2014-10-14T16:47:29Z")
Well, according to [CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/13/world/asia/north-korea-kim-jong-un/index.html?hpt=hp_t2) he’s back. If you want to see a funny video on CNN of what the Chinese thing of Lil’ Kimmy, Version 3, click [here](http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2014/10/11/pkg-mckenzie-china-needs-kim.cnn.html). I love the graphics. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450/60 "2014-10-14T16:52:58Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Well, according to [CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/13/world/asia/north-korea-kim-jong-un/index.html?hpt=hp_t2) he’s back. If you want to see a funny video on CNN of what the Chinese thing of Lil’ Kimmy, Version 3, click [here](http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2014/10/11/pkg-mckenzie-china-needs-kim.cnn.html). I love the graphics. 😛 OMG Kim Jong Un doing the Carlton dance made me laugh embarrassingly out loud at my desk. 😛 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-kim-jong-un-regime-in-north-korea-been-overthrown/700450.md?page=4)