# Has the world actually been cooling since 2002?

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**Created:** [February 19, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-world-actually-been-cooling-since-2002/681728 "2014-02-19T19:32:05Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-world-actually-been-cooling-since-2002/681728/228 "2014-02-26T20:20:45Z")

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I somehow missed this jewel before.

> [@Do global warming "skeptics" honestly see us as a benign species?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-global-warming-skeptics-honestly-see-us-as-a-benign-species/677984/544):
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> You seem to have an observation based on the facts that runs contrary to the climatological consensus.

OK that is sort of a funny phrase, “ **an observation based on the facts** ” , and then there is “ **the climatological consensus** ”.  
What does that mean? Because I tend to INCLUDE A LINK TO THE DATA when I point to some facts, I figure my observation isn’t the key thing. It’s yours.

And I didn’t know that the facts changed because of **the climatological consensus**. To me, if you can observe it, if it’s recorded, if it’s right there on the page, it’s not a matter of debate. If the GISS trend shows -.13 C

THEN THAT IS WHAT IT SHOWS

How else can you look at it? If my point is about a period of time, say the last 100 years, and I say, hey, look at this trend for the last 100 years, how the fuck is that “an observation” that is at odds with **the climatological consensus**? I mean, what the fuck?

Are you telling me people look at the same map and see different things?  
[a 100 year trend from GISS](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?year_last=2014&month_last=1&sat=4&sst=3&type=trends&mean_gen=01&year1=1915&year2=2014&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=rob)

[a 100 year trend from GISS](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?year_last=2014&month_last=1&sat=4&sst=1&type=trends&mean_gen=07&year1=1914&year2=2013&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=rob)

[a 100 year trend from GISS](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?year_last=2014&month_last=1&sat=4&sst=1&type=trends&mean_gen=12&year1=1914&year2=2013&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=rob)

[Warm season trend](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?year_last=2014&month_last=1&sat=4&sst=1&type=trends&mean_gen=0506&year1=1914&year2=2013&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=rob)

[Cold season trend](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?year_last=2014&month_last=1&sat=4&sst=1&type=trends&mean_gen=1106&year1=1914&year2=2013&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=rob)

That there are different ways to observe the same thing?

How in the fuck is that scientific?

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