# Has the World Gone Mad?  Turkey on a Plane!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-world-gone-mad-turkey-on-a-plane/743302>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 16, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-world-gone-mad-turkey-on-a-plane/743302 "2016-01-16T03:33:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-world-gone-mad-turkey-on-a-plane/743302/41 "2016-01-20T00:34:41Z")

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Sounds like a Fraternity stunt to me.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-world-gone-mad-turkey-on-a-plane/743302/42 "2016-01-20T09:19:00Z")

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> [@Hail\_Ants](#):
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> Regardless of the current state of \*‘everyone is entitled to absolutely everything everywhere no matter what’ \*that is not true. Flying on a plane and eating in a restaurant are not civil rights, they are privileges. Privileges which merely require you to comply with a common sense version of the ‘social contract’. Having to go everywhere with a farm animal on your lap exceeds that. Just as if you said you could only be in public wearing just your underwear, or because you have Tourette’s Syndrome people simply have to accept you shouting “Nigger spic whore!!” in public every few minutes.
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> You don’t have to be locked away somewhere and there are certainly more opportunities to help people now more then ever before. But no, there are simply parts of polite society that you cannot participate in while having to use your disruptive coping technique.

The common sense version of the social contract says we have to put up with dirty s,melly adults and misbehaving children by virtue of their human birth, but that a well behaved animal is unacceptable by its very presence?

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-world-gone-mad-turkey-on-a-plane/743302/43 "2016-01-20T16:23:58Z")

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> [@bb49](#):
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> Or better yet, maybe “_kinkyescort_” would fly for free?
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> Just dreaming.

Well, I feel emotionally stunted not being part of the “mile high club” on a commercial plane flight. ☹

> [@botsgotme](#):
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> What if the turkey started farting?

It smells like Thanksgiving???

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-world-gone-mad-turkey-on-a-plane/743302/44 "2016-01-20T18:50:06Z")

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> [@Spiderman](#):
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> It smells like Thanksgiving???

The cabin gradually fills with stuffing?

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-world-gone-mad-turkey-on-a-plane/743302/45 "2016-01-20T19:00:09Z")

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Up until a few years ago, the POTUS, every year, would pardon two Thanksgiving turkeys on the White House lawn in a ceremony a day or two before Thanksgiving. Those two turkeys would get seats in first class from Dulles to Orlando, where they would live out their remaining lives at Walt Disney World.

They now truck the pardoned turkeys to a farm in Virginia.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-world-gone-mad-turkey-on-a-plane/743302/46 "2016-01-20T19:05:07Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> The cabin gradually fills with stuffing?

Given the typical American build they are half way there already.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-world-gone-mad-turkey-on-a-plane/743302/47 "2016-01-20T19:09:27Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Given the typical American build they are half way there already.

Yep – I’m fat and no (jive) turkey better encroach on the extra seat I must buy myself. 😉

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-world-gone-mad-turkey-on-a-plane/743302/48 "2016-01-20T19:16:05Z")

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You speak jive?

Who knew?

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-world-gone-mad-turkey-on-a-plane/743302/49 "2016-01-20T19:58:24Z")

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My mama no raise no dummies.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-world-gone-mad-turkey-on-a-plane/743302/50 "2016-01-20T20:00:54Z")

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Damn, you got your JASL cert don’t ya? 🙂

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**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-world-gone-mad-turkey-on-a-plane/743302/51 "2016-01-20T20:31:24Z")

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My most interesting seat mate on any plane to date was the blind woman with her service parrot. She managed the bird and got him into all kinds of commercials and acting gigs. Very cool.

Also, in my 500,000+ miles logged in air travel, I have zero stories about service animals with unruly behavior. Unruly humans on the other hand…

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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-world-gone-mad-turkey-on-a-plane/743302/52 "2016-01-21T16:58:06Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Sounds like a Fraternity stunt to me.

Sounds like a hipster stunt to me. Let’s keep pushing the boundaries until it’s gone too far.

My issue with a turkey on board is that AFAIK they cannot be trained, and despite what some people will argue, are not domesticated animals IMO.

That being said, if the animal was contained in a crate the entire flight I’d deal with it, but I wouldn’t like it, especially if I had to sit next to it. I think we need more cases of common sense ruling, and to me the common sense is that you cannot fly on a commercial airline with a live bird. After all if you’re making more people uncomfortable than you’re making comfortable; isn’t that a bigger problem than you’re trying to solve?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-the-world-gone-mad-turkey-on-a-plane/743302/53 "2016-01-22T04:43:02Z")

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I agree that an untrained animal shouldn’t be on a plane, but I’m not sure that other people’s emotional comfort matters on a flight when a disability is at issue. We don’t consider other people’s comfort when it comes to children being on flights. At all.

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