# Has there ever been a better "story song" than...

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**Created:** [October 13, 2015, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-there-ever-been-a-better-story-song-than/734526 "2015-10-13T06:08:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\
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What, no mention of **Billy, Don’t Be A Hero**? :rolleyes:

I’d go with **Momma Told Me Not To Come** or **Spill The Wine** , but the first song I thought of was **Ode to Billy Joe**.

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I think the Dylan songs are the cream of the crop.

_Lily, Rosemary, and the Jack of Hearts_ Rich cast of characters, enough gaps in the story to make us think a bit for ourselves.

_Black Diamond Bay_ Now a bit dated with references to the Soviet ambassador and Walt Cronkite but the varying reactions to the slowly developing certain death are interesting.

\*Brownsville Girl \* On his more underrated pieces. I love the style of going back and forth from a speaking voice to singing voice

_Romance in Durango_ Another great story from the prime of his career

\*Senor \* Love the imagery and the building tension.

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> [@epbrown01](#):
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> … but the first song I thought of was **Ode to Billy Joe**.

Another one that’s in my Top Ten – which, based on this thread’s suggestions, may now be a Top Twenty! 🙂

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We could go back to the cheesy [Running Bear.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kz42oFVBNg)

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A minimalist classic, The Nails - [88 Lines About 44 Women](https://youtu.be/oai3mUL-T-I).

A maximalist classic, [Jaime Brockett - Legend of the USS Titanic](https://youtu.be/4XFYMjkFYPg).

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-there-ever-been-a-better-story-song-than/734526/86 "2015-10-14T16:01:04Z")

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Great thread. And thanks for the links. I have been introduced to many Story Songs.

I need to be in the mood for these songs, because they aren’t background music. Ya gotta listen.

One not mentioned is Harry Chapin’s Mr. Tanner.

[https://www.youtube.com/results?search\_query=mr.+tanner+harry+chapin&spfreload=10](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mr.+tanner+harry+chapin&spfreload=10)

Caution: Its a tear jerker!

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Not the best, but still good: Tom Waits’s Christmas Card From A Hooker In Minneapolis.

Here’s another good one from Waits: [“Burma Shave”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQqMYUu62zM).

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One that’s very recent (2008) is Sometime Around Midnight.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/8gBAiYXTcjA/hqdefault.jpg "The Airborne Toxic Event, Sometime around Midnight") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gBAiYXTcjA)

The funny thing is that it’s barely a song. It’s more of a story told against music in a singing voice. No chorus or hook or anything.

Less recent is “Detachable Penis”… 😃

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A good one: [Guy Clark - The Guitar](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHxOego2Sso)

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> The Ballad of Irving the 144th Fastest Gun in the West

I totally love that song. I'm glad I'm not the only person here who's heard it.

In any case, I thought it was 142nd (“141 was faster than he, but Irving was looking for 143”).

My favorite story song, though, has to be “Alice’s Restaurant”: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m57gzA2JCcM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m57gzA2JCcM)

This is another good one by my favorite folk singer: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgXfvCNb6VQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgXfvCNb6VQ)

And, of course: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i0DMbCKnAg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i0DMbCKnAg)

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-there-ever-been-a-better-story-song-than/734526/91 "2015-10-14T19:43:14Z")

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I think rap is a must if you’re going to discuss story songs (unless you’re using a definition that excludes “rap” from “songs”). Slick Rick’s _[Children’s Story](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjNTu8jdukA)_ is the best example, but virtually every rap act/group has one or more story songs in their repertoire.

Complex has a list of [the top 50 storytelling rap songs](http://www.complex.com/music/2013/07/best-storytelling-rap-songs/). If you like rap, there are a lot of really good tracks on that list.

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-there-ever-been-a-better-story-song-than/734526/92 "2015-10-14T20:08:24Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> The Ballad of Irving the 144th Fastest Gun in the West

Give the guy his due! He was the **142nd** fastest gun in the West.

For those unfamiliar, The Ballad of Irving is a - possibly now politically incorrect - tale of a Jewish cowboy/gunslinger.

Mind you, it was written and performed by Jewish entertainers … :rolleyes:

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-there-ever-been-a-better-story-song-than/734526/93 "2015-10-14T20:10:37Z")

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> [@whitetho](#):
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> I hope you don’t have Irving on your “Fantasy Gunslinger” team, because he was actually 142nd:
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> A hundred and forty-one could draw faster than he,  
> But Irving was looking for one forty-three.

OOPS!

Looked for a response before I posted and missed this one!:smack:

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> [@Robert163](#):
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> But the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald is an account of real life event. And, who is the person/character in City of New Orleans? What about House of the Rising Sun? Is it an actual story, or, is it a warning that employs the use of 1 or 2 characters?

In “City of New Orleans,” the train is the narrator–sorta like Thomas the Tank Engine.

How about those Kenny Rogers tunes “Lucille,” and “Ruby (Don’t Take Your Love to Town)”?  
ETA: Irving, had a son named Seymour, but that song is nowhere near as entertaining as “The Ballad of…”

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> In “City of New Orleans,” the train is the narrator–sorta like Thomas the Tank Engine.

I disagree. The lyrics of the second verse make it obvious that the point of view is a passenger; trains don’t generally play cards or share a bottle.

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No one’s mentioned this one. “Ringo” by Lorne Greene.  
[https://www.youtube.com/results?search\_query=ringo+lorne+greene](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ringo+lorne+greene)

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> ETA: Irving, had a son named Seymour, but that song is nowhere near as entertaining as “The Ballad of…”

On this subject, I’ll throw in Jim Stafford’s “[Cow Patty](http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDEQtwIwBmoVChMI_M6mqOXCyAIVyGs-Ch21NwVh&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DoyHDMKoF_zI&usg=AFQjCNH9O_irgMsp_wXnTL8ktoBd5OZzNg&sig2=SEzeIbzh2KWpeLdQLTshCw&bvm=bv.105039540,d.cWw)” - hilarious!

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> [@MacLir](#):
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> I disagree. The lyrics of the second verse make it obvious that the point of view is a passenger; trains don’t generally play cards or share a bottle.

I dis-disagree. The train is commenting on the behavior of his passengers–there is no identifying pronoun in that verse.

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> [@epbrown01](#):
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> What, no mention of **Billy, Don’t Be A Hero**? :rolleyes:
> 
> I’d go with **Momma Told Me Not To Come** or **Spill The Wine** , but the first song I thought of was **Ode to Billy Joe**.

Which reminds me of “One Tin Soldier”. Those of “a certain age” will know why. 😉

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> **Tom Waits**
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> [Hope I don’t fall in love with you](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtLVXBqfqBY)

Shakes tiny fist at **Kayaker**

Second submission…

[Steve Earle Ben McCulloch](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dca4WyDQk4c) from the Train A Comin’ album put out right after his release from prison.

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