# Has THIS Been Done? OLDEST Living Baseball MGR.?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 30, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751 "2009-07-30T04:09:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/1 "2009-07-30T04:09:26Z")

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I was thinking **Bobby Cox** (Atlanta Braves), but could I be wrong?

> **[Bobby Cox](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Cox)**
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> As manager
> As coach
> Robert Joe Cox (born May 21, 1941) is an American former professional baseball third baseman and manager in Major League Baseball (MLB). Cox played for the New York Yankees and managed the Atlanta Braves and Toronto Blue Jays. He is a member of the National Baseball Hall of Fame. He recorded a 100-win season six times, a record matched only by Joe McCarthy.

Thanks!

Quasi

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**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/2 "2009-07-30T04:24:31Z")

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Joe Torre, I think.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/3 "2009-07-30T06:51:28Z")

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Um, Don Zimmer is still kicking at 78 years old. I’m sure there are guys much older still breathing.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/4 "2009-07-30T12:16:48Z")

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Sparky Anderson is about 75. I thought he was 60 when he was 30.

He always looked older than his real age.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/5 "2009-07-30T13:02:59Z")

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> [@Stringer](#):
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> Joe Torre, I think.

Never in a million years would I have guessed that Joe Torre is older than Bobby Cox.

Munch: I’ll take “Put Me In Coach” for $200, Alex.  
Trebek: The older of Joe Torre and Bobby Cox has been to 15 post-seasons.  
Munch: Who is Bobby Cox?  
Trebek: Wrong.

Munch: I’ll take “Put Me In Coach” for $400, Alex.  
Trebek: This currently oldest coach in major league baseball has won 4 World Series.  
Munch: Who is Bobby Cox (and he’s only won one, Alex)?  
Trebek: No.

Munch: I’ll take “Put Me In Coach” for $600, Alex.  
Trebek: This MLB manager, who has NEVER coached the Atlanta Braves, is currently managing the Dodgers. He’s also the oldest current manager.  
Munch: I’m pretty sure Bobby Cox has coached the Braves, Alex.  
Trebek: Can you put that in the form of a question?  
Munch: Who is Atlanta Braves manager Bobby Cox?  
Trebek: False.

Munch: I’ll take “Put Me…”  
Trebek: Stop. Just…stop.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/6 "2009-07-30T13:52:48Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> I was thinking **Bobby Cox** (Atlanta Braves), but could I be wrong?
> 
> [Bobby Cox - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Cox)
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Quasi

Are you looing for active managers or anyone who has ever managed?

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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/7 "2009-07-30T14:00:10Z")

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I would have guessed Jim Leyland for oldest active manager. Perhaps his years of chain smoking make him look older than he really is (64).

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/8 "2009-07-30T14:31:37Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> Are you looing for active managers or anyone who has ever managed?

Just to get it out of the way, the oldest ever was [Connie Mack](http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/hofers/detail.jsp?playerId=118082).

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**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/9 "2009-07-30T16:27:48Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Munch: I’ll take “Put Me In Coach” for $600, Alex.  
> Trebek: This MLB manager, who has NEVER coached the Atlanta Braves, is currently managing the Dodgers. He’s also the oldest current manager.  
> Munch: I’m pretty sure Bobby Cox has coached the Braves, Alex.  
> Trebek: Can you put that in the form of a question?  
> Munch: Who is Atlanta Braves manager Bobby Cox?  
> Trebek: False.

Both you and Alex got this part wrong. In the early 80s, before he became a genius, Torre managed the Braves.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/10 "2009-07-30T16:35:56Z")

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I’d have guessed Bobby Cox was at least five years older than 68.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/11 "2009-07-30T16:36:49Z")

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And that, of course, was a reference to Warren Spahn, who had played for Casey Stengel with both the Boston Braves and the New York Mets:

“I played for Casey before AND after he was a genius.”

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/12 "2009-07-30T16:37:00Z")

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> [@pricciar](#):
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> Both you and Alex got this part wrong. In the early 80s, before he became a genius, Torre managed the Braves.

:smack:

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/13 "2009-07-30T16:55:23Z")

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Trailing only the already-mentioned Connie Mack and Casey Stengel, [Jack McKeon](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_McKeon) was the third-oldest man to manage a major league team. He was born November 23, 1930, and is still alive. Any living former skippers older than that?

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**Author:** ![Flymaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c4cdca/32.png) [@Flymaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flymaster)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/14 "2009-07-30T17:07:03Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> Trailing only the already-mentioned Connie Mack and Casey Stengel, [Jack McKeon](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_McKeon) was the third-oldest man to manage a major league team. He was born November 23, 1930, and is still alive. Any living former skippers older than that?

Walpole Joe Morgan was born November 19, 1930, and is still alive.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/15 "2009-07-30T17:07:51Z")

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If we extend this to non-baseball, does Joe Paterno count as “living”? I don’t think there’s much competition in the undead category.

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**Author:** ![Highpockets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e19adc/32.png) [@Highpockets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Highpockets)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/16 "2009-07-30T17:12:03Z")

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Johnny Pesky will be 90 in September

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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/17 "2009-07-30T18:02:17Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Never in a million years would I have guessed that Joe Torre is older than Bobby Cox.
> 
> Munch: I’ll take “Put Me In Coach” for $200, Alex.  
> Trebek: The older of Joe Torre and Bobby Cox has been to 15 post-seasons.  
> Munch: Who is Bobby Cox?  
> Trebek: Wrong.
> 
> Munch: I’ll take “Put Me In Coach” for $400, Alex.  
> Trebek: This currently oldest coach in major league baseball has won 4 World Series.  
> Munch: Who is Bobby Cox (and he’s only won one, Alex)?  
> Trebek: No.
> 
> Munch: I’ll take “Put Me In Coach” for $600, Alex.  
> Trebek: This MLB manager, who has NEVER coached the Atlanta Braves, is currently managing the Dodgers. He’s also the oldest current manager.  
> Munch: I’m pretty sure Bobby Cox has coached the Braves, Alex.  
> Trebek: Can you put that in the form of a question?  
> Munch: Who is Atlanta Braves manager Bobby Cox?  
> Trebek: False.
> 
> Munch: I’ll take “Put Me…”  
> Trebek: Stop. Just…stop.

Don’t you have to answer a question correctly to maintain control of the board? 😃

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/18 "2009-07-30T18:14:39Z")

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> [@zamboniracer](#):
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> Don’t you have to answer a question correctly to maintain control of the board? 😃

Right - like any of those other Poindexters could get a sports question right to wrest control away from me…

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/19 "2009-07-30T19:22:17Z")

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> [@Flymaster](#):
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> Walpole Joe Morgan was born November 19, 1930, and is still alive.

[Red Schoendienst](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Schoendienst) was born February 2, 1923 and is not only still alive but still at least nominally involved with the Cardinals.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-been-done-oldest-living-baseball-mgr/504751/20 "2009-08-01T02:26:41Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> [Red Schoendienst](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Schoendienst) was born February 2, 1923 and is not only still alive but still at least nominally involved with the Cardinals.

Yet, no one can pronounce his name.

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