# Has this board ever seen professional trolls?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 13, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707 "2016-05-13T19:38:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/1 "2016-05-13T19:38:13Z")

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I was [reading](http://usuncut.com/politics/clinton-super-pac-busted/) how the Clinton campaign had paid trolls on social media message boards who would argue for her case. I have no doubt other politicians, special interest groups, and maybe some corporations do the same.

So I’d like to ask, has this board ever had any paid trolls? I guess you spot them by them basically staying on one issue and continually arguing a point.

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**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/2 "2016-05-13T19:51:23Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> I guess you spot them by them basically staying on one issue and continually arguing a point.

How would that look different from half of our regular posters? 😛

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/3 "2016-05-13T20:10:00Z")

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That’s a definition of troll I’ve never seen. I would call such a person a plant or a shill not a troll.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/4 "2016-05-13T20:13:10Z")

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Professional, no. But we do have a number of “talented” amateurs.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/5 "2016-05-13T21:44:20Z")

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We’ve had a couple of one-shot posters come in and talk about how awesome Putin and Russia are compared to western countries, and some of them I suspected of being paid shills. On the other hand, maybe they’re Russian nationalists for free.

I suspect it’s a lot easier to tell your actual followers to flood social media rather than to pay fake followers.

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**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/6 "2016-05-13T22:26:10Z")

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How do I get a job as a paid shill or troll? Is the OP hiring?

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**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/7 "2016-05-13T22:27:31Z")

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I’m assuming the spam is paid-for, if it’s not bots. But those may be paid for as well.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/8 "2016-05-13T22:46:56Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> That’s a definition of troll I’ve never seen. I would call such a person a plant or a shill not a troll.

U.S. Uncut is a site that is highly partisan in favor of Sanders. In calling such commentators “trolls” they are essentially trolling themselves.

I can’t recall anyone who appeared to be a paid political shill. We’ve had obsessive posters posting in favor of a candidate or agenda but I can’t imagine anyone paying them for it.🙂

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/9 "2016-05-13T23:24:32Z")

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Paid political shill = anyone who argues against your candidate.

It’s more of a Facebook issue, since people tend to friend others with similar views.

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/10 "2016-05-14T03:36:41Z")

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Not sure about “professional trolls” but we have had quite a few “concern trolls” come and go FWIW.

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**Author:** ![herman\_and\_bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f1d935/32.png) [@herman\_and\_bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/herman_and_bill)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/11 "2016-05-14T11:32:48Z")

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This board is run by a cadre of highly talented, Johnny on the spot moderators. They work out of an annex to the Al Gore mansion in Nashville where he runs the internet, NOTHING escapes their unblinking eyes.  
[![](https://homeandkitchenaz.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/controlroom1_xl.jpg) ](https://homeandkitchenaz.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/controlroom1_xl.jpg)

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/12 "2016-05-14T17:17:47Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> I was [reading](http://usuncut.com/politics/clinton-super-pac-busted/) how the Clinton campaign had paid trolls on social media message boards who would argue for her case. I have no doubt other politicians, special interest groups, and maybe some corporations do the same.
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> So I’d like to ask, has this board ever had any paid trolls? I guess you spot them by them basically staying on one issue and continually arguing a point.

I can’t think of anyone on this MB who continuously posts anti-Hilary threads. Can you?

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/13 "2016-05-14T17:47:46Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I can’t think of anyone on this MB who continuously posts anti-Hilary threads. Can you?

Just wish I was being paid.

But then their is always a Hillary supporter ready with their own stats so hmmmm…

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/14 "2016-05-14T18:21:06Z")

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I wouldn’t quit my day job. 😉

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/15 "2016-05-14T19:25:04Z")

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I once suspected in the past that some accounts only went active in the 18 months before a presidential election and then went dormant again a month or two after it.  
The idea was soundly ridiculed by the other posters as well as the Mods, who have access to full data on who posts where and when in an easily sortable format.

TL;DR \_\_\_ No.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/16 "2016-05-14T20:15:53Z")

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There was/(is?) one poster that I do suspect of having ties to an industry group. He had _two_ superficially disparate hobby horses which constituted the vast majority of his posts, both of which would benefit the industry in question.

Other than that, I have no offerings besides the possibilities of drive-bys occasionally.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2016, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/17 "2016-05-14T23:07:14Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> There was/(is?) one poster that I do suspect of having ties to an industry group. He had _two_ superficially disparate hobby horses which constituted the vast majority of his posts, both of which would benefit the industry in question.

I know who you’re referring to, and I always thought be might be a paid shill, too. He certainly gave a hell of an impressive imitation of being one, if he wasn’t.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/18 "2016-05-15T00:55:08Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I was reading how the Clinton campaign had paid trolls on social media message boards who would argue for her case.

Unless I’m missing something, I don’t see evidence in the linked story or in a CTR release that the group is paying people to post pro-Clinton messages on social media under the guise that they’re just regular folks.

It’s especially hard to believe claims of plants/astroturfing when they involve websites and forums with limited audiences (sorry, but the SDMB probably isn’t big-time enough to be worth paying people to post here).

It gets even more ludicrous when you’re talking about a message board or comments section with only a handful of participants, and someone insists that you’ve got to be a paid troll because you refuted their jackass claim. A company with a multimillion dollar ad budget is hardly going to find it efficient to hire scads of minions to (for instance) patrol Amazon book reviews comment sections to reinforce the corporate line.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/19 "2016-05-15T16:36:49Z")

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You might be surprised at the idiotic, useless nonsense big companies spend money on.

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**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-board-ever-seen-professional-trolls/754707/20 "2016-05-15T16:45:02Z")

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You’re using “US Uncut” as a source?

A word to the wise: don’t.  
Assuming you want accuracy in your media reports, that is.

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