# Has this many people ever wished for one person to die? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 4, 2020, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169 "2020-10-04T04:46:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/101 "2020-10-05T07:07:11Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > He also said, “ …it is impossible to talk anything resembling discretion or judgment to a colored woman. They are all essentially child-like, and even hard experience does not teach them anything.” > > So,maybe he’s not the font of wisdom you think he is? I think that some things he said were sensible and other things were terrible. Like pretty much every other human being who has ever lived. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/102 "2020-10-05T07:13:46Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > If there’s any justice in this world, when this is all over, _if_ he pulls through, his sense of taste and smell will be permanently lost. The man likes his steak well done with ketchup on top. I think we can already count his sense of taste as lost. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/103 "2020-10-05T07:15:59Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Nothing these damaged folks write should surprise you. You poor little snowflakes. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/104 "2020-10-05T07:48:41Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > [@needscoffee](#): > > > > If there’s any justice in this world, when this is all over, _if_ he pulls through, his sense of taste and smell will be permanently lost. > > The man likes his steak well done with ketchup on top. > > I think we can already count his sense of taste as lost Lol! You’re right, what was I thinking? ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/105 "2020-10-05T07:54:00Z")
> [@Reply](#): > > this ape just watched another one kill two hundred thousand. If that ain’t good justification for an execution, your moral world is not worth living in. OK, if it is a numbers game then here’s where it takes you. Tens of thousands of USA citizens die every year through a lack of affordable healthcare. This has been going on for decades. Administrations of both stripes have failed to do anything meaningful about it whether by incompetency or obstruction or inaction. On their watches hundreds of thousands have died. You will of course be gleefully hoping that all the figures involved over the years die a horrible painful, fearful death yes? Well no, of course not. I think the numbers are probably irrelevant to you and that even a single death attributable to Trump would see you clamouring for execution. I feel you want him dead regardless of the death toll and probably still felt that way prior to March of this year. I’m against capital punishment in all circumstances. Clearly you aren’t and that is probably an insurmountable divide between us. > [@](#): > > Doesn’t change the simple observation that the world would be a whole lot better off without Trump. You don’t have the ability to make that judgement, no-one has. It has superficial attraction and plausibility for you I’m sure but you don’t even know whether his death works for or against your best interests in the next election, never mind the longer term. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/106 "2020-10-05T07:59:23Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Doesn’t change the simple observation that the world would be a whole lot better off without Trump. > > You don’t have the ability to make that judgement, no-one has. Nonsense. He’s personally complicit in the deaths of thousands. Wishing he were dead is not the same as making him dead. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/107 "2020-10-05T09:25:42Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > Nonsense. He’s personally complicit in the deaths of thousands. As have been many of the administrations that preceded him. Do you gleefully wish death upon them? > [@needscoffee](#): > > Wishing he were dead is not the same as making him dead. No but I get the feeling that some have a revenge fantasy going where they truly wish they could take a more active role in it. I hope I’m wrong and that is just hyperbole and internet bravado. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/108 "2020-10-05T09:32:46Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > I don’t want Trump to die. I want him to suffer _just enough_ to understand what he’s been putting hundreds of thousands of Americans through, recover, get stomped in the election, and then spend the rest of his life in prison. This, basically. I’ve never wanted Trump to die. I want him to live a long, long life, forced to face the consequences of his actions. I want him voted out of office in a free and fair election, I want to watch his business empire crumble as all his loans come due and he can’t use the power of the presidency to “pay them off” through corruption, I want to see him up on charges for his attempted and actual obstruction of justice (and anything else they happen to uncover), and I want him to face the penalties for those crimes. I want the system to work, and I want the corrupt and their enablers to be held accountable. Also, someone said something about a private island and a pony? ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/109 "2020-10-05T09:45:41Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > This, basically. I’ve never wanted Trump to die. I want him to live a long, long life, forced to face the consequences of his actions. I want him voted out of office in a free and fair election, I want to watch his business empire crumble as all his loans come due and he can’t use the power of the presidency to “pay them off” through corruption, I want to see him up on charges for his attempted and actual obstruction of justice (and anything else they happen to uncover), and I want him to face the penalties for those crimes. I want the system to work, and I want the corrupt and their enablers to be held accountable. Absolutely, I fully endorse this. > [@Gyrate](#): > > Also, someone said something about a private island and a pony? Well apparently by not wishing his death we are already in some sort of moral otherworld so that’s nearly as good as a private island. There don’t seem to be that many of us on it in any case ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/110 "2020-10-05T09:55:01Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Well apparently by not wishing his death we are already in some sort of moral otherworld so that’s nearly as good as a private island. There don’t seem to be that many of us on it in any case And if we get the island and the pony, [we could take the pony there on a boat](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpM8FjO4Vko). ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/111 "2020-10-05T09:58:30Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > And if we get the island and the pony, [we could take the pony there on a boat](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpM8FjO4Vko). and take him to the [horse dentist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzYzVMcgWhg) ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/112 "2020-10-05T11:11:07Z")
Why not use your own words, rather than search for a sanctimonious quote? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/113 "2020-10-05T12:12:47Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Nothing these damaged folks write should surprise you. And we damaged are worse than Trump how? I don’t know. You haven’t explained yet. Maybe we’re bad, but not as bad as Trump. I’ll assume you mean that. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/114 "2020-10-05T12:14:43Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Why not use your own words, rather than search for a sanctimonious quote? Firstly, it clearly isn’t a sanctimonious quote as the whole point is to remind ourselves that we aren’t as smart as we think we are and that knee-kerk reactions aren’t necessarily reliable. Secondly, and you may have missed it, I’ve used plenty of my own words both before and after the single one-line quote that seems to bother you. Had that quote been my only contribution your complaint may have some weight. Seeing as it wasn’t, it doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/115 "2020-10-05T12:22:09Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Tens of thousands of USA citizens die every year through a lack of affordable healthcare. This has been going on for decades. Administrations of both stripes have failed to do anything meaningful about it whether by incompetency or obstruction or inaction. Scene… there has been a shipwreck and 3 people have survived. 2 of them are in a lifeboat, and 1 is still in the water. The two on the boat are arguing and fighting rather than saving the third victim, who drowns. Do the two people in the boat share the blame of the third person dying? Does your answer change if you learn that one person was trying to throw a rope out to save the third person, and the other was fighting to prevent him from doing so? ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/116 "2020-10-05T12:27:19Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Nothing these damaged folks write should surprise you. Important question: What about people who respond to the calls for sympathy for Tump with “All Covid patients matter”? Would that qualify people as ‘damaged folks’, or would they ‘mighty fine people’? ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/117 "2020-10-05T12:29:37Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Well apparently by not wishing his death we are already in some sort of moral otherworld It’s not the ‘not wishing his death’, it’s the whiny, sanctimonious posturing that people are calling you out for. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/118 "2020-10-05T12:31:33Z")
“Ok boomer.” Abraham Lincoln, 1862. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/119 "2020-10-05T12:39:11Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Scene… there has been a shipwreck and 3 people have survived. 2 of them are in a lifeboat, and 1 is still in the water. The two on the boat are arguing and fighting rather than saving the third victim, who drowns. Do the two people in the boat share the blame of the third person dying? > > Does your answer change if you learn that one person was trying to throw a rope out to save the third person, and the other was fighting to prevent him from doing so? In all cases the people acting against the best interests of those in need are the ones who are to blame. As would be the case where people in the boat didn’t do all they could to ensure the drowning people were saved. Your point is? ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/120 "2020-10-05T12:46:38Z")
> [@Pantastic](#): > > It’s not the ‘not wishing his death’, it’s the whiny, sanctimonious posturing that people are calling you out for. It is a posture I’m very comfortable with. Just like I’m sure you are comfortable with gleefully hoping for the agonising death of another human being. Plenty seem to be. I’m extremely comfortable with criticising them and yes, on that aspect alone I believe that I hold a morally superior position. Feel free to convince me that it isn’t. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169.md?page=7)