# Has this many people ever wished for one person to die? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 4, 2020, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169 "2020-10-04T04:46:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/121 "2020-10-05T13:16:48Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Your point is? It is that: > [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Administrations of both stripes have failed to do anything meaningful about it whether by incompetency or obstruction or inaction. The failure of “both stripes” to accomplish anything meaningful implies that they are both equally responsible, when the reality is that one stripe has attempted to enact affordable health care plans on multiple occasions going back almost 30 years, only to be fought and thwarted by the other stripe. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/122 "2020-10-05T13:28:23Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Nothing these damaged folks write should surprise you. > > Now, if you are reading this and are truly damaged this isn’t directed at you. I wouldn’t want to be too reprehensible for the pit. Got to keep it classy in here. SILENCE! Imbecile. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/123 "2020-10-05T13:36:42Z")
If words on a message board upset you, I can’t imagine how upset you must be by Trump actually putting people’s lives in jeopardy for a publicity stunt. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/124 "2020-10-05T13:42:36Z")
Ah, Octopus thinks we’re too mean to the guy who mocks disabled people. Who didn’t see this coming? ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/125 "2020-10-05T13:42:50Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Just like I’m sure you are comfortable with gleefully hoping for the agonising death of another human being. Plenty seem to be. I’m extremely comfortable with criticising them and yes, on that aspect alone I believe that I hold a morally superior position. Feel free to convince me that it isn’t. Your position is pathetic, weak, and hypocritical, and encourages people to be happy victims of monsters. You’re the kind of sanctimonious, whiny shit who try to make people feel bad for even thinking, much less acting, to defend themselves and those close to them from attacks - and in this case it’s even worse, because no one is talking about taking any actual action, they’re just wishing for something to happen. Instead of commiserating with people who see the direct and encouraged attacks of Trump against them, their families, their ability to count someone as family, the environment they live in, and their ability to live, you condemn them for wanting an awful, willful threat to suffer the fate they want to inflict on others. Whining about how ‘morally pure’ you are people are happy that someone who wants them and people close to them to die agonizing deaths is instead facing the fate they wish on others is not anything remotely good, it’s just an advanced form of victim blaming. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/126 "2020-10-05T13:59:06Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > The failure of “both stripes” to accomplish anything meaningful implies that they are both equally responsible, when the reality is that one stripe has attempted to enact affordable health care plans on multiple occasions going back almost 30 years, only to be fought and thwarted by the other stripe. Yes, the republicans clearly bear more guilt when it comes to healthcare reform but I think it would be a stretch to suggest that the democrats have done everything they possibly could. But that was just one example. Feel free to switch the subject to any other reform or action or _inaction_ that impacts on life and limb, taken by a party in power or resisted by the opposition. A back of the fag packet calculation can soon throw up a plausible death toll in the thousands and you then wonder where the cut-off is for deserving summary execution. A CiC gets the chop for 200,000? but not for 150,000? 100,000?, 50,000? If the democrats were in power there seems to be an assumption that all those lives would be saved. I doubt it. And sure enough were the roles reversed with only half the death toll there’d be others of the opposite side calling gleefully for the painful death of Hilary and by the standards shown by some in this thread you’d have to say they’d be justified in doing so. If that is what you feel comfortable with then fine, you are welcome to it. I’d not call for, nor wish for death in either case. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/127 "2020-10-05T14:02:19Z")
> [@Pantastic](#): > > Your position is pathetic, weak, and hypocritical, and encourages people to be happy victims of monsters. You’re the kind of sanctimonious, whiny shit who try to make people feel bad for even thinking, much less acting, to defend themselves and those close to them from attacks - and in this case it’s even worse, because no one is talking about taking any actual action, they’re just wishing for something to happen. Instead of commiserating with people who see the direct and encouraged attacks of Trump against them, their families, their ability to count someone as family, the environment they live in, and their ability to live, you condemn them for wanting an awful, willful threat to suffer the fate they want to inflict on others. Whining about how ‘morally pure’ you are people are happy that someone who wants them and people close to them to die agonizing deaths is instead facing the fate they wish on others is not anything remotely good, it’s just an advanced form of victim blaming. Have you somehow imagined that I want nothing but good to happen to Trump? Are you so blinded by your eye-for-an-eye revenge fantasy that you’ve lost the ability to read? ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/128 "2020-10-05T14:23:48Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Yes, the republicans clearly bear more guilt when it comes to healthcare reform but I think it would be a stretch to suggest that the democrats have done everything they possibly could. You’re arguing that the boater didn’t fight hard enough to get the rope out to the drowning victim. I think the most valid response to that is to “get bent”. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/129 "2020-10-05T14:41:53Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > You’re arguing that the boater didn’t fight hard enough to get the rope out to the drowning victim. I think the most valid response to that is to “get bent”. I can confidently say that the democrats have not done all they can in all circumstances to make life better for people. They have dropped the ball on numerous occasions and lives will have been impacted and lost because of it. Note that were I a USA citizen I’d be democrat voter. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/130 "2020-10-05T14:50:50Z")
> [@ThisIsTheEnd](#): > > The cock is ticking. Don’t wait. > [@El\_Kabong](#): > > The cock is ticking, as someone said upthread. I think that was a typo, there’s an “L” missing. He meant to say “the cock is tickling”. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/131 "2020-10-05T16:40:52Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > I think the numbers are probably irrelevant to you and that even a single death attributable to Trump would see you clamouring for execution. I feel you want him dead regardless of the death toll and probably still felt that way prior to March of this year. You’re pretty judgmental for a guy who’s arguing against people being judgmental. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/132 "2020-10-05T16:45:21Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > I think that was a typo, there’s an “L” missing. He meant to say “the cock is tickling”. We’ve all heard the diaper rumors. He meant to say “the cock is trickling”. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/133 "2020-10-05T17:15:38Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > You’re pretty judgmental for a guy who’s arguing against people being judgmental. When it tips over into outright calls for harm, then yes. I think it worth calling people out on it. No point staying silent. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/134 "2020-10-05T17:23:01Z")
What outright calls for harm? Nobody’s saying we should sneeze on Trump to infect him. The main person who caused Trump to get sick is Trump himself. He’s the one who let the disease run wild in this country. He’s the one who encouraged people to ignore proper medical procedures. He’s the one who won’t wear a mask. He’s the one organizing and attending public rallies. Trump isn’t the innocent victim here. He’s the drunk driver who caused the accident. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/135 "2020-10-05T17:26:07Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > When it tips over into outright calls for harm, then yes. I think it worth calling people out on it. No point staying silent He was, and still is, harming himself and countless others. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/136 "2020-10-05T17:31:04Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > What outright calls for harm? Nobody’s saying we should sneeze on Trump to infect him. No, you are right. People have been very careful in not quite calling outright for his execution. I suspect many are just thinking it very loudly. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/137 "2020-10-05T17:32:37Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > He was, and still is, harming himself and countless others. That was rather the point of the first post I made, I acknowledged right there the damage he does. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/138 "2020-10-05T17:34:09Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > No, you are right. People have been very careful in not quite calling outright for his execution. I suspect many are just thinking it very loudly Can you tell what I’m thinking right now? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/139 "2020-10-05T17:35:07Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump isn’t the innocent victim here. He’s the drunk driver who caused the accident Worse yet, this drunk driver is still on the road. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/140 "2020-10-05T17:37:47Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Worse yet, this drunk driver is still on the road. He is indeed. The question is what to do about it. Take him off the road and lock him up? or hope he crashes and dies? My preference is for the former. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169.md?page=8)