# Has this many people ever wished for one person to die?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 4, 2020, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169 "2020-10-04T04:46:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/161 "2020-10-05T19:17:01Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> I think I have a little more faith in the American people than you do.

Based on what, pray tell?

Your faith is misplaced because these are the same Americans who failed to come out for the boring lady in the pant suit knowing full well who the alternative was.

> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> He’ll get his, I’m sure.

We’ll see.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/162 "2020-10-05T19:18:39Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> No, I have run into lots of upset people. And generally they’re acting the way you’re acting. So I assumed from your actions that you were upset.

Nope, just sitting here watching some tennis and idly back-and-forthing on the internet. Not in the slightest bit upset.

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> I guess it just shows how you can’t assume you know what other people are thinking by reading what they have written.

How true, sometimes what people write doesn’t reflect the depth of how they truly feel.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/163 "2020-10-05T19:20:21Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Your faith is misplaced because these are the same Americans who failed to come out for the boring lady in the pant suit knowing full well who the alternative was.

I don’t think they did know the full horror of the alternative. They do now.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/164 "2020-10-05T19:21:38Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> How true, sometimes what people write doesn’t reflect the depth of how they truly feel.

And sometimes they’re letting off steam.

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**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/165 "2020-10-05T19:22:32Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> Have you somehow imagined that I want nothing but good to happen to Trump? Are you so blinded by your eye-for-an-eye revenge fantasy that you’ve lost the ability to read?

I don’t imagine anything, and I’ve certainly read your nonsense claim of moral superiority enough times. You’re a shit-tier person who’s response to people wishing that a person causing them suffering would die is to condemn the person suffering, and to claim that you’re better than them because you don’t wish the person would die. The whole philosophy behind that is simply garbage, and your claims of moral superiority actually expose you as a morally bankrupt fraud who tries to prop up their own ego via victim blaming.

OTOH, are you so blinded by the light from your holier-than-thou aura that you’re unable to read? Because you keep talking about ‘exections’ and people calling for them… yet no one has done any such thing here, and if they did the mods would likely come down on them like a ton of bricks to avoid dealing with the Secret Service.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/166 "2020-10-05T19:23:00Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> And sometimes they’re letting off steam.

Of course, we all need to do that from time to time. I could well be wrong in my suspicion of some poster’s motives and true feelings.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/167 "2020-10-05T19:25:53Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> I don’t think they did know the full horror of the alternative.

Absolutely. I know of one who endorsed Trump four years ago, believing he couldn’t be as bad as people were saying; [now he endorses Biden](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux/911083/2905).

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/168 "2020-10-05T19:27:59Z")

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> [@Pantastic](#):
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> I don’t imagine anything, and I’ve certainly read your nonsense claim of moral superiority enough times. You’re a shit-tier person who’s response to people wishing that a person causing them suffering would die is to condemn the person suffering, and to claim that you’re better than them because you don’t wish the person would die. The whole philosophy behind that is simply garbage, and your claims of moral superiority actually expose you as a morally bankrupt fraud who tries to prop up their own ego via victim blaming.
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> OTOH, are you so blinded by the light from your holier-than-thou aura that you’re unable to read? Because you keep talking about ‘exections’ and people calling for them… yet no one has done any such thing here, and if they did the mods would likely come down on them like a ton of bricks to avoid dealing with the Secret Service.

now see here Little\_Nemo, _that_ is someone who is upset.

As it happens Pantastic, I did address the point about executions in one of my earlier posts.

> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> No, you are right. People have been very careful in not quite calling outright for his execution. I suspect many are just thinking it very loudly.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/169 "2020-10-05T19:30:11Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Absolutely. I know of one who endorsed Trump four years ago, believing he couldn’t be as bad as people were saying; [now he endorses Biden](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux/911083/2905).

That’s one at least. Hopefully more to come.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/170 "2020-10-05T19:30:34Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> I don’t think they did know the full horror of the alternative. They do now.

We will see.

And even so, the damage has been done and we don’t yet know the full extent of it. I feel quite certain the person/people responsible will not be held to meaningful account.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/171 "2020-10-05T19:34:27Z")

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Far too many people know the full horror of the alternative and are willing to deal with it to stay in power, and far too many more approve of that full horror and perhaps want even more.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/172 "2020-10-05T19:37:56Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> And even so, the damage has been done and we don’t yet know the full extent of it. I feel quite certain the person/people responsible will not be held to meaningful account.

In terms of legal account, who knows? Let’s hope so but if not, just getting kicked out can be humiliation enough. A beaten loser Trump who knows he is beaten would be quite some blow to him. Nixon never served jail time but he did have to be Richard Nixon for the rest of his life. Forever and ever we associate “Nixon” with “Crook”

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/173 "2020-10-05T19:38:14Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> No. I would have been even happier if he had been removed from office by impeachment. It would have represented a more emphatic rejection of Trump than just voting him out of office would be.

Really? Think of all the Trumpists who would forever wail that Dear Leader was wrongfully removed by a Congressional Dem cabal, rather than by red-blooded American voters.

Oh, well, agree to disagree. 🙂

The one reason I WOULD have liked removal via impeachment was to shorten the nightmare, and all its attendant real harms, by about one year.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/174 "2020-10-05T19:39:55Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Far too many people know the full horror of the alternative and are willing to deal with it to stay in power, and far too many more approve of that full horror and perhaps want even more.

far too many for comfort and complacency that’s for sure.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/175 "2020-10-05T19:41:45Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I feel quite certain the person/people responsible will not be held to meaningful account.

I’ll say! The “people responsible” are obviously the many millions who voted for Trump in 2016. Very few of them will be “held to meaningful account.” I’m sorry to say.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/176 "2020-10-05T19:47:07Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> In terms of legal account, who knows? Let’s hope so but if not, just getting kicked out can be humiliation enough.

Nope. Not nearly good enough.

Because people know Trump will get away with all of it. That’s the reason for all the ill will.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/177 "2020-10-05T20:42:12Z")

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See, if we could put him out of our misery (it’s just dream, Novelty\_Bobble), we wouldn’t have to deal with the aftermath of his latest tweet trying to get people to ignore covid:

> I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!

More people will die because of this.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/178 "2020-10-05T21:31:49Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Think of all the Trumpists who would forever wail that Dear Leader was wrongfully removed by a Congressional Dem cabal, rather than by red-blooded American voters.

I was thinking about them. It would have been one of the things that would have made me happy to see Trump getting impeached.

The timelime you noted would have been another. If Trump had been impeached back when he should have been (he was guilty of serious crimes after all) we would have had Pence as President this year. Pence is no prize and he would have been a bad President but he would have handled the Covid19 crisis better than Trump did and a lot fewer people would have died.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/179 "2020-10-05T21:35:28Z")

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Trump is raving and his base don’t care. His approval rating is About the same as it’s always been. He is the most dangerous man in the world right now.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-this-many-people-ever-wished-for-one-person-to-die/922169/180 "2020-10-05T22:08:53Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> Sometimes I forget how loving and tolerant liberals are. Thanks for the timely reminder.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Sometimes I forget how utterly stupid Trump supporters are.

You’ll note that they’ve pretty much stopped pretending that they’re not morally bankrupt hypocrites and liars. All they can do now is to use those powers to spread ludicrous claims that liberals and/or Democrats are just as bad.

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