# Has Trump made or spent $ on his election? \[+ Trump 2016 = Springtime Hitler?\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 13, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464 "2016-10-13T21:45:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464/41 "2016-10-19T16:08:47Z")

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Trump is at the age where money probably doesn’t matter to him. It’s about ego, “legacy” and leaving his mark on history. One way or another, he is 10 times as famous now as he was four years ago.

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**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464/42 "2016-10-19T18:01:17Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Trump is at the age where money probably doesn’t matter to him. It’s about ego, “legacy” and leaving his mark on history. One way or another, he is 10 times as famous now as he was four years ago.

I would correct that to: 10 times as _in_famous now.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464/43 "2016-10-19T18:18:25Z")

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> [@sinjin](#):
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> I would correct that to: 10 times as _in_famous now.

But to him that might be just as good.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464/44 "2016-10-19T18:50:52Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> If he loses, then the following happens:
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> 1. He loses his secret service detail. _Immediately_. As in, they will go home that night. (I bet this unhinges him.)

Tangent: this piqued my interest, so I did a little research. The statute that grants SS protection to candidates doesn’t stipulate when it ends, but traditionally it has been a [few days to a week](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2012/11/romney_secret_service_when_does_a_losing_candidate_s_security_detail_stop.html) after the election. I can’t imagine the agents will go home that very night, but your overall point is valid.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464/45 "2016-10-19T19:15:35Z")

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> [@sinjin](#):
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> I would correct that to: 10 times as _in_famous now.

> [@Velocity](#):
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> But to him that might be just as good.

I’m sure Trump doesn’t know (or care about) the difference.

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**Author:** ![GreenHell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ea666f/32.png) [@GreenHell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenHell)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464/46 "2016-10-22T17:50:09Z")

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Trump makes me wish we could invest in people the way we invest in stocks.

Short-selling is investing . . . right?😃

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464/47 "2016-10-22T17:53:01Z")

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> [@GreenHell](#):
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> Trump makes me wish we could invest in people the way we invest in stocks.
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> Short-selling is investing . . . right?😃

He’s got the biggest shorts! They’re yuuuge!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464/48 "2016-10-22T19:07:12Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Tangent: this piqued my interest, so I did a little research. The statute that grants SS protection to candidates doesn’t stipulate when it ends, but traditionally it has been a [few days to a week](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2012/11/romney_secret_service_when_does_a_losing_candidate_s_security_detail_stop.html) after the election. I can’t imagine the agents will go home that very night, but your overall point is valid.

You are correct, I was basing the above on what happens when a candidate concedes - that pretty much will do it as far as Detail coverage. Trump, not conceding, would have a reasonable case to keep the Secret Service until December 19th, when the Electoral College meets. After that? Obama will pull it, regardless.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464/49 "2016-10-25T12:17:50Z")

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[Trump used donor money to purchase his own books-nice profit!](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-book-donor-money_us_580e7b09e4b02444efa4e7c4) Basically, he put money in his own pocket.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464/50 "2016-10-25T12:55:28Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [Trump used donor money to purchase his own books-nice profit!](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-book-donor-money_us_580e7b09e4b02444efa4e7c4) Basically, he put money in his own pocket.

I believe this is extremely popular and is a big incentive for the clown car primaries. Get some donations, spend the minimum amount on your campaign, and spend the rest on “promotional material” that ends up in a dumpster.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464/51 "2016-10-25T14:13:05Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> I believe this is extremely popular and is a big incentive for the clown car primaries. Get some donations, spend the minimum amount on your campaign, and spend the rest on “promotional material” that ends up in a dumpster.

The difference here being he is using the donor money to buy the material _from himself_.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464/52 "2016-10-25T15:07:42Z")

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Well, if I have it correctly, he used $300k of donor money to buy the books from the publisher, then resold the books to donors at heavily-inflated prices.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464/53 "2016-10-25T15:14:37Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Well, if I have it correctly, he used $300k of donor money to buy the books from the publisher, then resold the books to donors at heavily-inflated prices.

Books that he “co-wrote” and was getting a cut from anyway.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464/54 "2016-10-25T15:30:41Z")

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It’s a win-win, win-win-win… unless you’re a donor.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464/55 "2016-10-28T14:59:49Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> The difference here being he is using the donor money to buy the material _from himself_.

I don’t think that’s different than what other campaigns have done.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464/56 "2016-10-28T16:50:56Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> I don’t think that’s different than what other campaigns have done.

Other campaigns have operated like [_this?_](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-campaign-hotels_us_5812c0b4e4b064e1b4b18c7a)

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**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-made-or-spent-on-his-election-trump-2016-springtime-hitler/768464/57 "2017-08-18T16:53:08Z")

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This thing I wonder about is whether “The Producers” will get a big bump from Der PussygrabbingFurher, and how much Mel Brooks will gain from any resurgence in NAZI popularit?

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