# Has Trump personally acknowledged that the Women's March even happened? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 22, 2017, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814 "2017-01-22T10:48:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/21 "2017-01-22T16:35:06Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > No, but he is _very_ bothered by any suggestion that he’s not popular. Ooooo… have you got any more on this? I like to think about it. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/22 "2017-01-22T16:51:54Z")
I mean - My cite would be his own reaction to suggestions that women or Hispanics don’t like him because of his behavior towards him. It’s not much of a cite, I know, but Trump’s insecurities are evident in his behavior. If you want more, there’s been plenty written about Trump’s insecurities. Here’s an article from the Atlantic last March, discussing the insecurities that lead Trump to dwell on the “short-fingered vulgarian” slam (which is from, what - twenty-five years ago?) and, in his own mind, forced him to discuss his penis during the Republican debates. > **[Donald Trump Claims He 'Had No Choice' But to Talk About His Anatomy](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/short-fingered-vulgarian/474747/)** > > The unnerving insecurity at the core of a man who wants to be president. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/23 "2017-01-22T16:54:50Z")
But if you want something more entertaining - try this article from the NYT comparing the Women’s March with Trump’s inaugural crowd: > **[Crowd Scientists Say Women’s March in Washington Had 3 Times as Many People...](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/22/us/politics/womens-march-trump-crowd-estimates.html?smid=pl-share)** > > Estimates by crowd scientists of attendance at events on Friday and Saturday and how they calculated it. The composite image at the top, showing how far the crowd stretched on Saturday is really heartening. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/24 "2017-01-22T16:55:20Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > IOW if Trump claims that he has a Mandate, he’s wrong. To quote someone whom you guys love dearly, “Elections have consequences and, if you were unaware, he (Trump) won.” Continuously focusing on the “popular vote” is really quite sad, as there’s no such thing in the realm of the Presidential election. It didn’t matter two hundred years ago, it didn’t matter on November 7th, it didn’t matter on November 9th and it doesn’t matter today. Anyway, I don’t really understand what the point of this topic is. Obama regularly ignored the annual March for Life, even though an upwards of 600K or so showed up to DC for it. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/25 "2017-01-22T16:58:14Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > [This doesn’t mean anything either](http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/20/14332462/photos-crowd-trump-inauguration-vs-obama), I suppose. So you fell for that one, too. > **[Julia, Author at TechBlogHub](https://www.techbloghub.com/author/julia)** ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/26 "2017-01-22T17:02:18Z")
USA Politics Today! Wow, another major news outlet that I had not heard of before today. But clearly, a glance at their home page proves that they are a strictly objective, non-partisan source! And I am the Queen of Romania. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/27 "2017-01-22T17:05:01Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > No, but he is _very_ bothered by any suggestion that he’s not popular. Personally bothered, yes. That will influence what his next tweet will be about. I understood the “mandate” reminder to be an attempt to influence how he would set policy. Anyway, to put things in the argot of the times: Trump has moved us into a post-mandate world. The only thing that counts is winning. Any win is a biggly win. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/28 "2017-01-22T17:07:23Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > So you fell for that one, too. > [Julia, Author at TechBlogHub](http://www.usapoliticstoday.com/cnn-edited-footage-inauguration-crowd/) Clothy’s link leads to one of the fake news sites - USA Politics Today - which has been blacklisted by Google. Here’s a Media Matters article about the blacklisted fake news sites - propaganda sites, they should really be called. > **[Websites Peddling Fake News Still Using Google Ads Nearly A Month After...](https://www.mediamatters.org/google/websites-peddling-fake-news-still-using-google-ads-nearly-month-after-google-announced-ban)** > > Websites circulating fake news were still using Google’s online advertising service as of December 12, nearly one month after Google announced it would ban such sites from using its advertising platform as a revenue source. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/29 "2017-01-22T17:19:13Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Personally bothered, yes. That will influence what his next tweet will be about. I understood the “mandate” reminder to be an attempt to influence how he would set policy. Anyway, to put things in the argot of the times: Trump has moved us into a post-mandate world. No, I don’t think he has, although I agree that he would claim to have done so. Donald gets by on a certain brutish animal magnetism but all the other politicians who actually have to vote to implement Donald’s policies are going to be up for reelection soon. (And honestly - so well he, assuming he doesn’t go full Hitler). > [@John Mace](#): > > The only thing that counts is winning. Any win is a biggly win. Yeah. But that’s thing about our political system. You can’t just win the one time and then assume that you’re God-Emperor For Life. They have to win the next one, too. And the one after that. And then another. And another. And another. Donald, of course, will only care about winning re-election. But he still has to _work_ to do that. Meanwhile, the career politicians can’t just coast along. When they looked at the Marches yesterday, especially the marches held regionally, the career politicians should have been seeing Pissed-Off and arguably Well-Organized Voters. If those career politicians are smart, they would look at those comparison photos and draw some conclusions. But aside from that, bothering Donald Trump’s personal insecurities … well, that’s its own reward. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/30 "2017-01-22T17:22:56Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > You people keep harping on the popular vote as if it meant something. It doesn’t, and it doesn’t by design. You’re beating a dead horse here. When the electoral college was created, the US had about 5 million people, most of which were in just a handful of states on the East Coast, now it has over 300 million and considerably more spread out. Either way, it never hurts to take a second look at something that was created over 2 centuries ago. However, if you want to run with the idea that it was created a long time ago therefore there’s no need to change it, I’m going to call you out the next time you say that something was created a long time therefore it needs to be changed. At least have the nerve to say that you don’t want it changed because it’s currently working for you. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/31 "2017-01-22T17:27:26Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > USA Politics Today! Wow, another major news outlet that I had not heard of before today. But clearly, a glance at their home page proves that they are a strictly objective, non-partisan source! And I am the Queen of Romania. True fact! I read about it in Romania Politics Today. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/32 "2017-01-22T17:29:29Z")
I could be wrong, but I don’t think “Candidate Trump” is long term winning strategy for the Republicans. If he runs again, or if they nominate more candidates like him, the Democrats will almost certainly figure out how to beat him (hint: Don’t run Hillary as a candidate). I’m hoping that Americans get their fill of dating “the bad boy” and move past that in the next election. Until then, expect Trump to be as unconventional as he has been. He thinks he won because of it, even if most of us think he won despite it. And no one is going to convince him otherwise. Hillary won the popular vote by a large margin, but I doubt that would have happened if the candidate had been more of a Romney than a Trump. And it really does seem like she was if not the only candidate, one of the few who actually could have lost to Trump. I think Biden would have crushed him easily. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/33 "2017-01-22T17:36:32Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > So you fell for that one, too. > [Julia, Author at TechBlogHub](http://www.usapoliticstoday.com/cnn-edited-footage-inauguration-crowd/) Yes, your source must be correct. They used lots of exclamation points. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/34 "2017-01-22T17:41:10Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > To quote someone whom you guys love dearly, “Elections have consequences and, if you were unaware, he (Trump) won.” Continuously focusing on the “popular vote” is really quite sad, as there’s no such thing in the realm of the Presidential election. It didn’t matter two hundred years ago, it didn’t matter on November 7th, it didn’t matter on November 9th and it doesn’t matter today. > > Anyway, I don’t really understand what the point of this topic is. Obama regularly ignored the annual March for Life, even though an upwards of 600K or so showed up to DC for it. Oh, baby… it matters. Just hide and watch. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/35 "2017-01-22T17:42:24Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I could be wrong, but I don’t think “Candidate Trump” is long term winning strategy for the Republicans. If he runs again, or if they nominate more candidates like him, the Democrats will almost certainly figure out how to beat him (hint: Don’t run Hillary as a candidate). I’m hoping that Americans get their fill of dating “the bad boy” and move past that in the next election. Until then, expect Trump to be as unconventional as he has been. He thinks he won because of it, even if most of us think he won despite it. And no one is going to convince him otherwise. I’m curious as to how you think Trump managed to win states like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan while-- at least when compared to prior presidential elections-- making Minnesota competitive, whereas the last four Republican nominees lost them all? Attributing his win to “America wants a bad boy!” is not only a poor analysis of what actually happened, but it sounds like something someone who learned nothing from this election cycle would say. I feel confident in saying if that’s the way Democrats (and #nevertrumpers who will be back come 2020) think, Trump will easily win reelection. Trump’s campaign has consistently said their strategy was to make overtures to middle America, which they felt they could flip. And given the fact that he was able to do just that while holding onto the “Romney states”, I believe their analysis is slightly more attached to reality than is yours. > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Oh, baby… it matters. Just hide and watch. 😉 Yeah, okay. Wake me up when you successfully prevent Trump from becoming president. …Oh, wait. You didn’t. And he was sworn into office on Friday. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/36 "2017-01-22T17:52:14Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > It’s a perfectly valid thing to quote because it indicates factually that more people oppose Trump’s agenda than support it and they’re justified in using whatever legal and non-violent means they can to do so. Obstruct, delay, protest, filibuster, whatever it takes. And if the country gets fucked, too bad.:rolleyes: Trump had a higher % of the vote (46%) than Bill Clinton did in 1992 (43%). He won by the rules of the game as laid down. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/37 "2017-01-22T17:53:54Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > IOW if Trump claims that he has a Mandate, he’s wrong. He. Won. The Election? Did Clinton not have a mandate in 1992? Winning an even smaller percentage than Trump did? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/38 "2017-01-22T17:59:30Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > And if the country gets fucked, too bad.:rolleyes: Obstructionist Republicans over the past 8 years don’t seem to have cared one bit whether their partisan tactics were getting the country “fucked”. I know it’s very convenient for conservatives to maintain that conservatives should be able to get away with any tactics, no matter how unethical or counterproductive, whereas liberals mustn’t use such tactics because it would be “hypocritical” or “selfish” of them. But your double standard is very apparent. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/39 "2017-01-22T18:02:59Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Did Clinton not have a mandate in 1992? Winning an even smaller percentage than Trump did? You’re overlooking the fact that although Clinton in 1992 won only 43% of the popular vote, his closest rival in the election won less than 38% of it. Personally, I don’t think that attempting to quantify intangible “mandates” based on voting patterns means much. But if it means anything to you, then you have to acknowledge that **relative** percentages of popular vote are significant, not just **absolute** percentages. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814/40 "2017-01-22T18:07:04Z")
Get over yourself. I am niether conservative nor American. And saying republican did it too is a non starter, the issue is deadlock, not who created it. You think the country can afford 4 more years of it just because it now “liberal” imposed? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/has-trump-personally-acknowledged-that-the-womens-march-even-happened/777814.md?page=3)