# Hasan Piker suing Scott Jennings for $72 million **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2026, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206 "2026-10-28T03:05:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/41 "2026-10-28T16:48:01Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > I don’t think you understand what “cherry picking” means. Per Google: _To cherry-pick means to selectively choose only the most desirable, beneficial, or convenient items, people, or pieces of evidence from a larger group while ignoring the rest._ What evidence am I ignoring? Hasan himself admits that he is a Marxist who peddles Social Democrat ideas not because he believes in them or because they are his end goal but because he wants to move people closer to his true ideology, that being Marxism. I gave an example where he clearly admits that he is doing this, but he constantly talks about being a Marxist, which is why if you are denying that I am asking you to actually own that position rather than weasel around it. > [@Mijin](#): > > I’m saying that what you’ve quoted doesn’t support the claim you made. If you want to make a different claim then go ahead, and then cite it. What I quoted absolutely supports the claim I made, that being that Hasan is a Marxist who uses Social Democrat ideology to funnel people towards Marxism. Again, what if any aspect of that claim are you actually denying? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/42 "2026-10-28T16:53:19Z")
For decades, idiot Republicans have used the term “Marxist” as a slur to describe any and all Democrats. This has made it possible for an _actual, self identifying Marxist_ to slide along mostly unchallenged by making a very slight effort in mainstream spaces to masquerade as a Social Democrat. On his own stream and in friendly spaces, he is able to openly identify as a Marxist and funnel people towards Marxist ideology and people are simply unable to call him out because of the legacy of fucking morons like McCarthy. Just because McCarthy saw Communists behind every bush doesn’t mean that Marxists don’t exist. When Hasan openly identifies as one, I believe him. If @Mijin is actually a frequent Hasan viewer, then he _absolutely_ knows this, and I can think of very few reasons for him to deny it other than being in agreement with Hasan on this. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/43 "2026-10-28T17:04:52Z")
If it’s so obvious, then it really should be easy find a cite that directly quotes that Piker: > [@Babale](#): > > admits to funneling people towards Marxist-Lenninist ideology ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/44 "2026-10-28T17:10:59Z")
I think that Babale’s summation of what he quoted, and the bolded parts thereof, is basically fair, although the host was more explicitly Leninist than Piker himself. But I can’t blame anyone for not wanting to wade through that incoherent word salad, and disagree with Babale that either party “clearly stated” anything at all. Also, Social Democrats are Marxists. The word Babale is looking for is “Marxist-Leninist”, or just “Leninist”. “Tankie” is also acceptable. ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/45 "2026-10-28T17:13:42Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Also, Social Democrats are Marxists. The word Babale is looking for is “Marxist-Leninist”, or just “Leninist”. “Tankie” is also acceptable. Apparently I need a new word for my own political views. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/46 "2026-10-28T17:16:38Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > But I can’t blame anyone for not wanting to wade through that incoherent word salad, and disagree with Babale that either party “clearly stated” anything at all. Want another example? Here’s Hasan explaining to his audience why open tankies like Bad Empanada come after him: > [@](#): > > Like what are the best ways to get as many people on board as possible? This is a major idea. Not even an ideological disagreement but more so this is a major disagreement in methods. **A lot of people further to the left of me despise my reformist sentiment**. **They think that that is silly and it actually shepherds people back into a safe space in the Democratic Party, not realizing that like I think we must go beyond the Democratic Party.** _ **This is my goal as well** _, so, but, you know, that’s just, they don’t understand that like _ **someone has to literally be at the top of the funnel.** _ > > It’s just, they will not, they don’t, they don’t recognize that. > > They don’t recognize that there’s utility in someone trying to build a working class movement in this country that is so unimaginably reactionary. > **[👺I AM THE AYATOLLAH OF WOKE👺ICE PULLOUT OF MN?👺LOCAL PD NOW TAKING OVER?👺...](https://www.twitchtranscripts.com/channel/hasanabi/2681834111)** > > VOD Transcript: "👺I AM THE AYATOLLAH OF WOKE👺ICE PULLOUT OF MN?👺LOCAL PD NOW TAKING OVER?👺 HOGWATCH👺WOKE SHARIAH IS HERE👺YE APOLOGIZES!" by HasanAbi. Timestamp & dialogue cue. Transcribed with audio to text AI. If you still think that’s not “clearly stated” - well, I don’t know how accurate the term “clearly stated” is for _anything_ coming out of Piker’s mouth - but I’m happy to look for more examples. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/47 "2026-10-28T17:17:48Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Also, Social Democrats are Marxists. The word Babale is looking for is “Marxist-Leninist”, or just “Leninist”. “Tankie” is also acceptable. Modern Social Democrats are certainly NOT Marxist, which is why I consider them valid allies. They have ideological roots in Marxism, but they moved away from that a loooooong time ago. Democratic Socialists are Marxists. But those are not the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/48 "2026-10-28T17:18:21Z")
So “the Dems aren’t far enough left” = Marxist - Leninist? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/49 "2026-10-28T17:30:29Z")
At this point I think I need a diagram and a glossary. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/50 "2026-10-28T18:23:58Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > If @Mijin is actually a frequent Hasan viewer, then he _absolutely_ knows this, and I can think of very few reasons for him to deny it other than being in agreement with Hasan on this Right – I’m another filthy commie who hates america. I’m even using the same tactics as Hasan – i.e. failing to say anything which supports your claims, and making you look like a fucking idiot who doesn’t understand what democratic socialism means. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/51 "2026-10-28T18:30:26Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > failing to say anything which supports your claims, You’re right, when he said that he funnels people beyond Social Democracy and that he’s a Marxist it totally doesn’t support my contention that he’s not actually a Social Democrat but is actually a Marxist who is funneling people beyond Social Democracy. > [@Mijin](#): > > Right – I’m another filthy commie who hates america. I mean, you’re clearly sweeping for one. I don’t care whether you are a Marxist yourself or not, any more than I care whether a conservative who sweeps for Fuentes is a Nazi themselves or not. And I’ll point out that you STILL haven’t said what part of my claim you actually disagree with! Are you denying that Hasan is Marxist? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/52 "2026-10-28T18:35:25Z")
You first said “Marxist-Leninist”. Are you now amending your claim to only Marxist? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/53 "2026-10-28T22:40:30Z")
I’m not seeing Marxist in any of that guy’s ranting either. Is he advocating for workers to control the means of production? He’s saying he’s pushing for something more left than the Social Democrats, but I don’t really know how he defines that. Is it free bus fare and universal healthcare? Is it from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs? Because that’s a big spectrum. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/54 "2026-10-28T22:41:49Z")
I bet Piker has a Marxist tattoo. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/55 "2026-10-28T22:55:21Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Social Democrats […] Democratic Socialists Splitter! ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/56 "2026-10-28T23:00:58Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I bet Piker has a Marxist tattoo. Yeah, I bet those of us critical of Hasan are exactly as correct as we were about Platner. > [@RitterSport](#): > > I’m not seeing Marxist in any of that guy’s ranting either. I’m sure that even this still won’t be enough for those determined enough not to see what’s in front of them, but here you go: > **[Hasan Piker’s Politics of Appeal](https://jewishcurrents.org/hasan-pikers-politics-of-appeal)** > > The streamer and political commentator discusses how electoral politics can be used to spread class consciousness and why he keeps talking about… > [@](#): > > I’m used to it. I’m an anti-imperialist, I’m a Marxist. I’ve been doing this for 13 years at this point. I’m used to people just being like: You’re out of your mind. What are you even saying? It’s annoying, but who cares? It’s something that I’m going to continue fighting for regardless, because this is what I believe, and I’ve been very transparent about my beliefs and my advocacy. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2026, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/57 "2026-10-28T23:02:47Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > He’s saying he’s pushing for something more left than the Social Democrats, but I don’t really know how he defines that. Is it free bus fare and universal healthcare? Is it from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs? Because that’s a big spectrum. Why is the first example you give for something that’s “more left than Social Democrats” free bus fare and universal healthcare, two proposals that people quite a bit to the right of Social Democrats support? That obviously isn’t what he means. ---
**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/58 "2026-10-29T00:03:10Z")
> **[Views on Lenin and Leninism](https://whoishasanpiker.com/hasan-piker-and-leninism)** > > Hasan Piker and Views on Lenin and Leninism - This wiki has one of the largest repositories of information cataloging his egregious statements and activities over time. > [@](#): > > A circulated video clip preserves one of Piker’s clearest statements of personal admiration for Lenin.Video: Hasan Piker Says He Loves Lenin, Fidel Castro And Che GuevaraIn the clip, Piker states: “I love Lenin, I love Fidel Castro and I love Che Guevara.” — Hasan PikerHe then refers to the three revolutionary figures as “genuinely fucking heroes.”[16]Unlike clips in which Piker merely reads or explains Lenin, this statement is relevant as direct evidence of Piker’s personal admiration for Lenin. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/59 "2026-10-29T00:20:57Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > > I’m a Marxist > > (from Piker) Thanks for providing that. It’s all I was looking for. > [@Babale](#): > > Why is the first example you give for something that’s “more left than Social Democrats” free bus fare and universal healthcare Because that’s what Republicans scream about Mamdani being a socialist for. Like I said, I have no idea where Piker stands on any of this. This thread is the first I’ve heard of him. > [@DeadTreasSecretaries](#): > > > Hasan Piker Says He Loves Lenin, Fidel Castro And Che GuevaraIn the clip, Piker states: “I love Lenin, I love Fidel Castro and I love Che Guevara.” > > (From your quoted text) Thanks for this, too! I never heard of him before today. I saw this thread and ignored it, and then the Times ran an article on the lawsuit, so I thought I’d read the thread. This thread had me pretty bewildered. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2026, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasan-piker-suing-scott-jennings-for-72-million/1034206/60 "2026-10-29T00:25:43Z")
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