# Hasidic cults like Kiryas Joel, how common is it for the kids to get free from them?

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**Created:** [December 12, 2009, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasidic-cults-like-kiryas-joel-how-common-is-it-for-the-kids-to-get-free-from-them/520959 "2009-12-12T04:11:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![adhay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@adhay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhay)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hasidic-cults-like-kiryas-joel-how-common-is-it-for-the-kids-to-get-free-from-them/520959/41 "2009-12-16T00:34:02Z")

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> [@Fat\_Chance](#):
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> This a major issue - and I speak as one who grew up in Monroe, moved away and now live back near Kiryas Joel again. Once wooded rolling hills are covered in concrete 4-5 story apartment houses, that are being built as fast as possible. They buy up all the land around, especially old farms and large tracts, and have attempted to annex other village and town property into thier own village. They’ve used proxy buyers to purchase land that people ddidn’t want to sell them.
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> And on the other side, the towns and villages have been fighting, changing zoning laws, suing them based on water and sewage usage, etc.
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> Its a constant battle, and I do wonder what will happen once they truly start to run out of space. I think it will be a while before that happens, as they still have a large amount of undeveloped land, even as fast as they are building.
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> Either, the surrounding towns will block thier advance, and they will have to establish other communities in other places, or the folks living in the surrounding towns will flee the dropping property values and overcrowding, and allow the **Hasidics** to take over thier land as they flee.
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> Should be an interesting next 20 years or so in this area.

[empasis mine]  
We might well substitute here the **folks next door** , all around the world.

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