Yes I know what condone means, thank you for pointing out my mistake. I did mean to write condemn obviously. Thanks for pretending you didn’t understand what was obvious from the context.
Want to answer the question as to how you somehow think that the First Amendment should be bent to your needs?
In searching for an answer to my conundrum, two facts have occurred to me. One is that EXTREMELY few Christians or religious believers have ever actually read the Bible. Probably no other book in the world has such a high proportion of people who own it and revere it, but have never bothered to read it.
The only close competitor it has in this respect is (wait for it) *Mein Kampf * . At one point there was a copy of Hitler’s borefest in every home in Germany. Newlyweds in the Third Reich were automatically given a copy by the officiant, even if he was a priest or minister. And there was a copy in every hotel room in Germany. There could easily have been 50 million copies in Germany alone. Yet, it is estimated that only a few thousand of the most devoted Nazis had ever read right through it. Like the Koran, it had the amazing ability to be bloodthristy and violent and yet boring at the same time. But I digress.
The other thing I have noticed is that Gideon Bibles contain a frontespiece that tells you where to look if you are feeling sad, or depressed, or whatever, and giving you specific verses to look up.
So what I am going to do is ADD to the Gideon Bibles. I am going to write and circulate on the web another frontespiece that I and others can leave inside the Bibles whenever we travel. Here is just the initial draft. If you have other verses to suggest they are welcome:
Here is where to look in the Bible to find:
Whether you should kill your neighbour for working on the Sabbath (verse?)
Justification for murdering gays (Leviticus, etc.)
Justification for persecuting Jews for the death of Christ (the verse from Matthew).
Hustification for burning heretics (the quote by Jesus that the bad branch will be cut and burned, which was used extensively by the Inquisition)
Anyhow, you get the idea. I will even include the delightful verses about how God sent bears to maul little children just because they laughed at a bald man.
Or the verses about how to sell your daughter into slavery.
I think I will have a lot of fun putting this together. 
All contributions are welcome.
Not really, since I never even mentioned the First Amendment, let alone ask that it be “bent” to my needs. I live in Canada where we have freedom of speech under the Charter of Rights, but not a “First Amendment”. That is something purely American.
You built the straw man, fella, you take him apart.
How do you live with that kind of anger at the world for so goddamn long? I mean, you sound exactly like a college freshman, except that they grow out of it in a couple of years, but you’ve apparently kept it going for decades.
To be honest I didn’t read the whole thread. It sounded like a buch of chickenshit whining from the get-go.
Whatever, deal with your own fucking self-made problems then. I could give a shit how you feel about religion. You’re right though, there are laws against hate-speech in Canada. So why don’t you file a fucking lawsuit then?
You know what I think? I think you have a beef against religion since it has been used to persecute you, so you can’t let it go or even believe that there is anything beneficial about it. I do think I’m in the majority here when I say that you are making a fucking mountain out of a mole-hill here.
Are you just now discovering that the Gideons put Bibles in hotel rooms? Of course not. You just decided to fucking thow a fucking fit about it. Grow the fuck up for once and act like a goddamned adult. This is a childish thread about childish behavior on your part. You’re getting zero sympathy here so why not go on your ridiculous little quest to place in your inserts in every Gideon bible in the nation.
If you really think that it’s a big deal then go to the government, as Canada has provisions about this.
But to be honest, I’d let the hate die down a little bit. Life is about compromise, and guess what? You’re going to have to get along with Christians whether you want to or not. It’s better to try to understand them than demonizing them.
What a fucking joke.
What about the Yellow Pages? There is actually a directory in the hotel room that has a listing, complete with phone numbers where guests can attend a Christian church for further hate learning! You should try to get rid of those as well.
And did you know that the room service menus have alcoholic beverages on them? Do you know how many lives and families are destroyed by alcohol? Add that to your list.
That electric light by the hotel bed (which I’m sure was used for prostitution purposes at least once) uses fossil fuels to create the electricity, contributing to global warming…blah, blah blah
Did I say I was angry? Where do you get off deciding that for me? What I have been doing for the past 50 years, in fact, is joining with others of like mind to help free our society from the tentacles of religion.
While I would not presume to compare myself to Thomas Jefferson, I too have sworn eternal emnity against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. And religion is pretty damn high on that list.
It may surprise you to learn that I do not spend all my time on SDMB. Over the years, I have supported successful campaigns to remove religion from schools in Quebec and Newfoundland, to demand that crucifixes be taken down in Quebec hospitals, that prayers no longer be said in courts and in the legislatures.
I have campaigned for gay marriage rights, abortion rights and self-chosen euthanasia. In every one of these actions our main opponents have been the kind folks of religion, who as Isaac Asimov once observed, would not let a dog remain in suffering but would deny a human being facing final months of torment the right to end his own life.
I have seen Popes feeding poor children in Latin America in front of the cameras and being called saintly. But when I write a letter to the editor and ask if there would not be fewer poor if it were not for the RCC position on birth control and abortion in those countries, I am castigated as an anti-Catholic bigot.
The number of atheists is growing in most western, developed countries. Most Islamic countries are too poor, ignorant and repressive for any significant movement of atheists to raise its head, but atheists exist there too, believe me.
I have a dream that someday, all of humanity will look back on the ages of religion as a horrible dream, much as we look back on witch burnings. And when that day comes the human mind will have freed itself from one of the greatest tyrannies by which we oppress our own kind.
Every gesture that disestablishes religion from its protected place in our society, no matter how minor it appears to you, is a step in the right direction.
(1) Do you mean read the whole thing, or read any of it?
(2) How do you know? Just because they didn’t get as upset about it as you have? As has already been pointed out in this thread, many of us who have read the Bible don’t have anywhere near the same reaction to it as you do.
(3) Even if this is true, so what?
What do you hope to accomplish with this, besides having a lot of fun? What result do you expect it to have?
A warning: When you go looking for the worst in something, whether it be a book, a person, an organization, or whatever, you run a serious risk of becoming a negative, dark, bitter, cranky person, the kind that’s ultimately no fun to be and no fun to be around. Obviously we do need people to recognize and point out what’s wrong in the world, but when you go searching for it and habitually dwell on it and let it obsess you, you (if I may be so melodramatic) risk serious soul-rot.
ETA: Reading your most recent post, I see: You are obsessed. You are toward religion as the religious have been towards heresy; as Carrie Nation towards alcohol; as Lenin towards capitalism.
I’m sorry. You’ve been a ball of fucking sunshine in this thread then, I guess. :rolleyes:
Wow, how big of you to fight intolerance with such intolerance. :rolleyes:
Being “whiny” about hate speech seems to me like…
standing up for what is right.
I’m with you on this one, Valteron.
The only thing you got right was the whiny, you obviously didn’t read the thread, and hitching your wagon to THAT horse is a recipe for disaster.
Not specifically, no. It is, however, patently obvious from everything you’ve ever written on the SDMB about religion.
I’ve read every post, and you obviously have your head up your ass.
I’m sure defending hate speech will get you straight into heaven.
Enjoy.
Where the fuck do you get off? If you’re going to snipe another poster, at least have the kutzpah to give some evidence of your niceties.
Your post is hate speech. Enjoy.
Your post is shit. Eat it.
Offensiveness doesn’t equate to hate.
In your spouse’s mouth.
What the fuck do you want?
He dismisses an objection to calls for death (prohibited on the Dope but O.K. in the Bible) as whining.
What fucking evidence do you need?
:rolleyes: No, it’s question of not being such a whiny bitch drama queen who thinks the world revolves around him. Grow a fucking pair and get on with your life.
Sheeze, how the fuck do you go through life like this? :smack: :rolleyes:
Offensive Intolerance is Hate. You may justify it to yourself however you like. But expressing your hatred of religion as mere “offense” doesn’t make it any less hateful or offensive to others.
I don’t have much use for most religion, but I don’t go around acting like a fucking monomaniacal drama queen demanding everyone bow before my offended sensibilities every time I see a religious symbol or book. Get the fuck over it. The World isn’t about you.