# Hate where you live?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hate-where-you-live/515667>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 29, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hate-where-you-live/515667 "2009-10-29T22:16:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2010, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hate-where-you-live/515667/81 "2010-08-14T23:55:35Z")

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I hate snow. Really, REALLY hate it. Don’t let my feelings sour you on Alaska though, it’s beautiful and Heeee YUGE here, and so much wilderness, it’s the Grizzly Adams’ of the world’s paradise. There’s nothing wrong with the state though, my hatred is based upon my personal preferences.

I also hate the whole Grizz Adams thing. Most “true” Alaskans are of the whole hunting/fishing/snowmachining fanatical mindset. I hate that stuff. And now that my family has all (except for my son, who is planning on it next Spring) left the state, I’m all alone here as well. I’ve given it 40 (and a half) loooooooOoOOOng years. I’m beyond ready to go.

On the plus side, though we’re feeling pinches here and there, Alaska generally weathers recessions fairly well, I’ve rarely had trouble finding good jobs. The people are friendly, laid-back and fun. The environment, as I said above, is GORGEOUS and very much “last frontier”. And we still “don’t give a damn how they do it ‘outside’”. 😃

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**Author:** ![lavenderviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lavenderviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lavenderviolet)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hate-where-you-live/515667/82 "2010-08-15T00:09:34Z")

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> [@glowacks](#):
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> This thread goes to show that just about the only people left in the Detroit area are those that actually like it here. That’s the only possible explanation I have as to why it didn’t come up.

Like many others, I reluctantly moved away because the economy was so miserable, but I’d be very happy to go back to **metro** Detroit if I thought that my family could get work. Royal Oak, Ferndale, the Grosse Pointes, Birmingham, West Bloomfield, and (a little further away but still worth mentioning) Ann Arbor have many good qualities that make up for the fact that inner city Detroit is mostly (though not completely!) a hellhole.  
Life is easier and happier at the moment in my new hometown, but I will always love Detroit. It’s an area with an interesting, albeit painful history in my opinion and I do think the day will come when it finally gets its act together.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hate-where-you-live/515667/83 "2010-08-15T05:50:58Z")

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I saw this thread and thought "well I like where I live now (outside of Boston) but I could post about my 25 years in **Tucson!** Then I read the thread and saw it’s already been covered. The only good things about Tucson are 1) Mexican food, 2) 4th Ave and 3) hey, at least it’s not Phoenix.

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**Author:** ![NetTrekker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nettrekker/32/2909_2.png) [@NetTrekker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NetTrekker)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2010, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hate-where-you-live/515667/84 "2010-08-16T03:24:01Z")

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Tampa Bay is certainly too hot & humid this time of year but at least you can go to the beach and take a walk without risking slipping & falling on an icy sidewalk and breaking your neck. I used to wonder if our old farmhouse would stand up to some of the blizzards we had in Ohio back in the day. The cycle is just reversed here…winter is the nice season. I compare the opposite months: August in St. Pete vs. Feb. up north…I still prefer the former.

Downsides to Tampa Bay are:  
– high unemployment and lack of major corporate employers; there are a few but not enough  
– the economy was based primarily on tourism & continued growth, which has slowed; the economy needs to be more diversified  
– aftereffects of the 2004/2005 hurricane seasons…high homeowners insurance rates  
– inadequate public transportation…no light rail, no bus rapid transit; highways were not built for the amount of growth that’s happened  
– lots of riff-raff, unparented kids, scammers, sex offenders and beer-beggars (“Hard times, anything helps, God Bless” = “Give me money to go buy today’s beer”)  
– the occasional Palmetto bug in my condo

It amazes me how desperate some people are to _not_ leave the town they grew up in.

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**Author:** ![NetTrekker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nettrekker/32/2909_2.png) [@NetTrekker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NetTrekker)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2010, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hate-where-you-live/515667/85 "2010-08-16T03:31:26Z")

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> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#):
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> **Moderator note**  
> Haven’t you guys seen the sticky about the new, improved, and relaxed zombie rules? It’s been up for months, so you might want to check it out.
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> In brief, most zombie threads, especially ones like this, are OK. On the other hand we still might close them if there were old fights and arguments that we don’t want dredged up; or if a resurrected thread can lead to confusion, for example as with ones discussing almost-recent events in the news.

I think this is good. “Zombie thread” seems to be a misnomer anyway since a thread isn’t really dead unless the moderators lock it..

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**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hate-where-you-live/515667/86 "2010-08-16T19:40:32Z")

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> [@Tannim](#):
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> I live in Fargo ND. Anyplace where you get warnings in the winter not to go outside with uncovered skin is a bad place to live.

Lived in Grand Forks many years.

You Fargo people don’t know how good and warm you have it.

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