# Hated Shows in your Favorite Series
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [February 28, 2005, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279 "2005-02-28T11:56:26Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 3
### Author:  [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/41 "2005-03-01T01:17:24Z")
> [@Aesiron](#):
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> Beverly fell in love with a ghost that was also her grandmother’s lover.
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> It’s icky.
The implication is that the ghost had nailed just about all of Bev’s female ancestors, going back several hundred years.
Ick, indeed.
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### Author:  [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/42 "2005-03-01T01:22:17Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> I can’t believe we’re this far into the thread and no one’s mentioned TOS’ _Spock’s Brain_.
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> :dubious:
**RealityChuck** already beat ya to it.
TNG: “The Naked Now.” Yeesh.
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### Author:  [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/43 "2005-03-01T01:25:07Z")
> [@Aesiron](#):
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> Beverly fell in love with a ghost that was also her grandmother’s lover.
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> It’s icky.
And let’s not forget this entire planet was colonized by descendants of Scotland. I guess it was the Scots’ idea of a joke to choose a new planet with the same crappy climate as their old country (fog, rain, cold weather) and continue to speak with a thick brogue.
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### Author:  [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/44 "2005-03-01T01:39:48Z")
Don’t know the ep title, but the DS9 ep where the crew and the Romulans play baseball. I saw the previews and I knew there was no way any good would come of it. It remains the only ep I have not seen.
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### Author:  [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/45 "2005-03-01T01:43:29Z")
> [@Otto](#):
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> Don’t know the ep title, but the DS9 ep where the crew and the Romulans play baseball. I saw the previews and I knew there was no way any good would come of it. It remains the only ep I have not seen.
Les Nessman saved the day!
**Viva** , I can’t believe after all this time that I whooshed you of all people.
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### Author:  [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/46 "2005-03-01T01:47:38Z")
> [@Otto](#):
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> Don’t know the ep title, but the DS9 ep where the crew and the Romulans play baseball. I saw the previews and I knew there was no way any good would come of it. It remains the only ep I have not seen.
They were Vulcans, not Romulans and it was _Take Me Out to the Holosuite_.
Incredibly cheesy but a funny show regardless.
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### Author:  [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/47 "2005-03-01T02:08:34Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> …
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> Masks: The ship is transformed into an ancient alien temple.
Ya know, I had pretty much forgotten about this one.
Until now.
Thanks a lot, buddy!
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### Author:  [@Quasimodal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodal)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/48 "2005-03-01T02:43:50Z")
Some other Star Trek monstrositys
TNG: Rascals: 4 members are turned into whining kids who must take back the ship from evil ferengi!
Voyager: Threshold: It doesn’t get much worse than this. Lets just say at the end of the episode Janeway and Paris have “evolved” into alien reptiles and decide to mate.
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### Author:  [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/49 "2005-03-01T02:51:48Z")
Well, since we’ve turned this into a Trek Doper thread, how about the entire first half of Season II of _Enterprise?_.
Bile comes up my throat just remembering 'em all.
However, that period did generate some of the best Trek Doper threads in SDMB history, so I have soft spot in my head for that time period.
_M_A_S_H\*\* had some incredibly bad messagy shows in the later seasons, but I can’t think of any specific ones. If it had Alda going on and on about something, you’ve probably found one.
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/50 "2005-03-01T03:01:57Z")
> [@Dooku](#):
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> And let’s not forget this entire planet was colonized by descendants of Scotland. I guess it was the Scots’ idea of a joke to choose a new planet with the same crappy climate as their old country (fog, rain, cold weather) and continue to speak with a thick brogue.
_Scots in Space_ would be a great TV show.
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### Author:  [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/51 "2005-03-01T03:21:24Z")
**Quantum Leap** - The series finale. I felt incredibly betrayed by Donald Bellisarius. The whole surreal bartender/God thing. They just left Sam hanging. It was so wrong.
StG
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### Author:  [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/52 "2005-03-01T03:32:04Z")
> [@StGermain](#):
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> **Quantum Leap** - The series finale. I felt incredibly betrayed by Donald Bellisarius. The whole surreal bartender/God thing. They just left Sam hanging. It was so wrong.
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> StG
He came back!
Fridays at 7:00 on UPN.
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### Author:  [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/53 "2005-03-01T06:51:34Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> Les Nessman saved the day!
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> **Viva** , I can’t believe after all this time that I whooshed you of all people.
I thought you just had No Clue. 😃
The messagy MASHes…Yeah, the surreal Hawkeye dream thing was one I could have done without. Ditto the one where he can’t stop sneezing and then dredges up a bad memory of being pushed into the water by his cousin or something. I blame Alan Alda for the deterioration of that series in its last 2 or 3 years, when he turned it into the AlanAldaSensitive80sGuyPsychoBabble show.
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### Author:  [@Katisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katisha)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/54 "2005-03-01T06:55:52Z")
If we’re talking bad Trek, nothing beats the DS9 episode where Quark poses as a woman to help gain equale rights for Ferengi females. DS9 at its best was superb, but the low points…well, let’s just say they were _really_ low. (And most of them involved multiple Ferengi.)
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### Author:  [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/55 "2005-03-01T07:29:14Z")
I’m surprised at how little time, and how few posts, it took to turn this into the “Hated Shows in Star Trek” thread. 😃
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### Author:  [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/56 "2005-03-01T14:45:43Z")
**Sub Rosa** was good. Creepy, but good. As was **Genesis** and **Masks** and **The Game** and **Take Me Out to the Holosuite** and **Rascals**. (“He’s my number one dad!”) But **Threshold**? Yeah, it blew.
–Cliffy
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### Author:  [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/57 "2005-03-01T16:13:43Z")
> [@Dooku](#):
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> And let’s not forget this entire planet was colonized by descendants of Scotland. I guess it was the Scots’ idea of a joke to choose a new planet with the same crappy climate as their old country (fog, rain, cold weather) and continue to speak with a thick brogue.
[fanboy]Yeah, but Riker got to bag a really, really hot Scottish chick!!![/fanboy]
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### Author:  [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/58 "2005-03-01T16:33:16Z")
[in an attempt to drive it away from a complete ST thread]
**Grey 17 is Missing** from B5. If this is the one I’m thinking about, then yeah…it sucks. (It’s the one where Garibaldi ends up shooting some monster with ancient bullets by putting them in a steam pipe, right?)
**Bend Her** from Futurama. Bad plot idea to begin with, plus, it seemed that at the end of season 4, there was a huge wave of Bender episodes. We had **Obsoletly Fabulous** , **Bender Should not be Allowed on TV** ,and **BNend Her**. None were that good (by Futuraam standards, still better than anything else on tv,) but **Bend Her** was the worse. The last five minutes were hilarious, but everything leading up to it was painful compared to good Futurama.
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### Author:  [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/59 "2005-03-01T16:59:54Z")
Most old-school anime (recent titles, due to the downturn in the economy, typically only run 26 episodes) have their share of horrible filler episodes that are obviously hack, and generally contradict themselves or established canon.
One particularly hated filler is the notorious “Super Horse” episode from somewhere within Rurouni Kenshin. (I’ve seen the episode in question and I don’t have a problem with it - basically, the characters are riding in a train that gets hijacked, so Kenshin grabs a very talented horse that has l33t jumping skills and beats up all the bad guys.)
Clips shows are annoying, too, but it’s a bit more forgivable in Japan since I don’t think they show reruns (or don’t do them as much).
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### Author:  [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2005, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hated-shows-in-your-favorite-series/292279/60 "2005-03-01T17:09:01Z")
Sub Rosa was pure distilled crap. See also: Masks and Genesis.
All the bad ferengi episodes from DS9 seem to blend together in my mind, but the worst non-ferengi episodes have got to be Past Tense, Second Sight and Melora. Bleh!
Beer Bad was really really bad. My mind can’t process the contradiction of someone liking Buffy but not Once More with Feeling. Go Fish stinks on ice.
I loved the final Quantum Leap episode, but I realize most didn’t.
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