# "Hater" spitters **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 12, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655 "2015-01-12T21:48:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/1 "2015-01-12T21:48:07Z")
“Hate” is a particularly strong word in the English language. Calling a person, or by extension through a grouping, a “hater” means they actively pursue or support a strong opposition agenda toward the target. In some cases, it may be a legitimate epithet (e.g., WRT a particular large retailer), but most of the time it is on a par with “the N-word”. One recent/current example is “cop-haters”. I, for one, feel that the police ought to be held to a very high standard, given the level of authority that is bestowed upon them. It almost eliminates “benefit of the doubt” in questionable cases that keep popping up. Many others like myself do not “hate” the police, and even realize that their job can place them in difficult positions, but to call us “cop-haters” is, for the most part, way beyond the pale. So, before you go spitting “-hater” at someone else, consider that doing so will make you look like a total asswipe to all but a small group of similar asswipes like yourself. Just knock it the fuck off, unless you simply do not want to be part of the conversation. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/2 "2015-01-12T21:52:22Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > …but most of the time it is on a par with “the N-word”. No, it really isn’t. Your claim is stupid, and i hate you for it. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/3 "2015-01-12T21:55:46Z")
I should add, by the way, that i basically agree with your second paragraph. Those who call for police reform are often called (incorrectly) cop-haters. Those who opposed the Iraq War were sometimes accused of not supporting the troops, or of being supporters of Saddam. The “haters” thing is just another example of the overblown rhetoric that people too often use in place of ideas and rational debate. It’s still not the same as calling someone a nigger, though. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/4 "2015-01-12T21:59:12Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > {…} most of the time it is on a par with “the N-word”. {…} Are you anywhere near a city with a large Black community? 'Cause I’d like to suggest a little experiment. CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/5 "2015-01-12T22:17:48Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Are you anywhere near a city with a large Black community? > > 'Cause I’d like to suggest a little experiment. > > CMC fnord! And I’d like to suggest bringing along a friend to video the experiment. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/6 "2015-01-12T22:34:57Z")
Saw the title and I was hoping for a reference to the Dave Chappelle “Haters Ball” sketch. Boy, was I disappointed when I read this weak shit. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/7 "2015-01-12T22:45:01Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > In some cases, it may be a legitimate epithet (e.g., WRT a particular large retailer), but most of the time it is on a par with “the N-word”. To paraphrase John Mulaney, you know how I know your assertion is bullshit? Because you can say “hater.” When you’re talking about whether two words are equally bad, and you can’t even say one of them, that’s the worse one. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/8 "2015-01-12T22:49:30Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > To paraphrase John Mulaney, you know how I know your assertion is bullshit? Because you can say “hater.” When you’re talking about whether two words are equally bad, and you can’t even say one of them, that’s the worse one. H-word please! :rolleyes: 😉 CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/9 "2015-01-12T23:05:55Z")
OK, I stand corrected. It is not as bad. The effect of attempting to belittle one’s opponent is slightly similar but not “on a par with”. The effect of making the person using the term look like an asswipe is, nonetheless, comparable. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/10 "2015-01-12T23:07:59Z")
I prefer the hater swallowers, but that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/11 "2015-01-12T23:26:52Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > {…} The effect of attempting to belittle one’s opponent is slightly similar {…} No, it’s not even vaguely similar\*. There’s nothing a “nigger” can do to not be Black. You? Just don’t say anything and _poof_ who can tell that your a “hater”? No absolute stranger, who has no way of knowing your opinions, is going to drag you out of your bed, and lynch you, just because of the color of your skin. \*Yeah, it sucks, it isn’t a counter argument, it accomplish nothing . . . but it ain’t similar. CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/12 "2015-01-13T06:34:41Z")
Haters gonna hate. ---
**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/13 "2015-01-13T06:43:46Z")
When are we going to address the spitter haters? They are the real problem. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/14 "2015-01-13T07:58:50Z")
“Hater” is its own word now, separate from the simple meaning of “one who hates”, just like “player” is separate from “one who plays”, and doesn’t necessarily carry all the emotional charge that the actual word “hate” does - it is often used more in the sense of mere dislike, or even just cynical mistrust. Might I suggest the OP just shake it off? ---
**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/15 "2015-01-13T08:10:03Z")
> [@3trew](#): > > When are we going to address the spitter haters? They are the real problem. Try being the janitor for several years at an agricultural-based college in the Animal Sciences building. I’ll pause for a few seconds while that sinks in. Careful! You do _ **not** _ want to slip. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/16 "2015-01-13T12:27:18Z")
Stop the hate, masturbate. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/17 "2015-01-13T14:16:31Z")
> [@russian\_heel](#): > > Haters gonna hate. Fish gotta swim Birds gotta fly But they don’t last long If they try - Tom Lehrer The term “hater” as it is generally employed today makes the person using it sound like they’re about 9 years old. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/18 "2015-01-13T15:37:01Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Might I suggest the OP just shake it off? But them kids are on my lawn! With their saggy pants and their wacky words! Do you know what them kids do? Do ya? Well, I’ll tell ya! They say things are “cool,” but they’re of a _normal temperature_! They say things are “bogus” when they’re _merely disappointing, and not false or spurious at all_! They say things are “awesome,” but those things _do not inspire awe_! They say things are “radical,” but they have nothing to do with _altering social structures through revolutionary means and changing value systems in fundamental ways_! They say things are “ironic,” when they are simply _coincidence_! …ok, I got off track on that last one. But damn, words change and it sucks. It’s hell getting old. Alls we can do is suck it up, Buttercup, and just wave the ol’ walker around some. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/19 "2015-01-13T23:39:51Z")
They see ya rollin’ They hatin’ ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hater-spitters/709655/20 "2015-01-13T23:49:29Z")
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