# Have actors really had sex on camera in a non-porn Hollywood movie?

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**Created:** [October 1, 2002, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435 "2002-10-01T18:55:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2002, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/21 "2002-10-02T12:48:20Z")

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Wait wait, I started reading this thread thinking that somebody _must_ have already said something about Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman in Eyes Wide Shut. I mean they were married and they were working with a director who would want as much realism as possible. It would be tough to achieve normally, but with a couple married in real life and in the film, why not?

I’m NOT saying that it definitely happened, but I wouldn’t be all that surprised if it did. I did hear that they often cleared the set completely when filming Tom & Nicole together because Kubrick wanted it to be more intimate. Then again, they might have just said that to make everyone _think_ they really had sex.

Maybe Kubrick promised to have the camera trained only on their head and shoulders while he kept his _eyes wide shut._ Heheheh heh heh…heh (alright, cheezy, sorry couldn’t help it)

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**Author:** ![Oblong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c0e974/32.png) [@Oblong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oblong)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2002, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/22 "2002-10-02T14:02:43Z")

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For The Getaway I read where the sex scene between Baldwin and Basinger was real. They were the only ones in the hotel room and controlled the cameras via remote control.

I don’t know if this falls into the definition of sex but in that Madonna movie, Body of Evidence?, Willem Dafoe’s face was buried in her crotch. She was standing on the hood of a car naked from the waist down and his head was right there, moving around. I don’t see any other way around it.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2002, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/23 "2002-10-02T15:03:19Z")

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> We aren’t talking about “good” sex or meaningful sex or romance, we’re talking about real penises really going into real vaginas (or other body parts, depending).

Well, I’ve read several interviews with gay porn stars making the same distinctions between what they do with their lovers as genuine sex and what they do in front of the cameras as a performance that is not even slightly erotic to them. A penis going into a vagina (or a mouth or a vagina) is just anatomy if there’s no real charge there.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2002, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/24 "2002-10-02T15:04:40Z")

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Erratum: The last sentence should read, “A penis going into a vagina (or a mouth or an anus) is just anatomy if there’s no real charge there.”

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**Author:** ![dorkusmalorkusmafia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorkusmalorkusmafia/32/7266_2.png) [@dorkusmalorkusmafia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorkusmalorkusmafia)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2002, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/25 "2002-10-02T15:28:35Z")

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Taxi Zum Klau (sp?), a German coming out movie, featured real sex. Real dicks going into asses or mouths. It had a plot, was interesting, but not the best movie out there. When the sex scenes rolled around it looked like porn.

In the original Queer as folk series (the Brittish one), they show sex, but not penetration. The series opens with the slut giving the kid a rimjob. On an interview I later saw, they said the kid (later in some shitty American series) said that it was a real rimjob.

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**Author:** ![WSLer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a6a055/32.png) [@WSLer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WSLer)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2002, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/26 "2002-10-03T02:57:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> \*\*Erratum: The last sentence should read, “A penis going into a vagina (or a mouth or an anus) is just anatomy if there’s no real charge there.” \*\*

More like rape.

And how do you know there is _no real charge there?_

I’ve had sex when I wasn’t that interestd in having it and it certainly **wasn’t** anatomy.

I’m astonished that no one has mentioned Marlon Brando and Maria Schneider’s scene in _Last Tango In Paris_.

Oh wait, I just did.:smack:

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**Author:** ![Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boo_Boo_Foo)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2002, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/27 "2002-10-03T03:17:45Z")

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Apparently the legendary sex scene in “An Officer and a Gentleman” featuring Richard Gere and Debrah Winger was a closed set affair.

It was the real thing. I’m sure of it.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2002, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/28 "2002-10-03T03:29:43Z")

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gobear: Ok so you and some gay porn stars don’t use the word “sex” the way that the rest of the planet does; that still is irrelevant. The issue here is whether or not actors have actually penetrated each other, etc, while filming sex scenes rather than just simulating it.

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**Author:** ![herownself](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8baadc/32.png) [@herownself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/herownself)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2002, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/29 "2002-10-03T06:22:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Boo Boo Foo \*  
> \*\*Apparently the legendary sex scene in “An Officer and a Gentleman” featuring Richard Gere and Debrah Winger was a closed set affair.
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> It was the real thing. I’m sure of it. \*\*

[I rather doubt it](http://shopping.yahoo.com/shop?d=d&id=1800035227).

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**Author:** ![Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@Boo\_Boo\_Foo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boo_Boo_Foo)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2002, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/30 "2002-10-03T06:31:43Z")

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Feel free to offer one yourself of course. As all the rest of us have done.

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**Author:** ![username\_for\_rent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@username\_for\_rent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/username_for_rent)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2002, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/31 "2002-10-03T06:32:04Z")

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I’ve heard rumours about _Jungle Fever_. There is also mob movie featuring model Amber Smith, I can’t remeber the name of the movie or of the co-star which is on the tip of my tongue. Andy Garcia perhaps? I’m not sure. Anyway, I read in a Celebrity Skin magazine that some said the scene was real.

Damn… Cervaise’s link, I have to get a hold of that Aguilera sex tape…😉

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**Post date:** [October 3, 2002, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/32 "2002-10-03T06:34:14Z")

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I’ve heard rumours about _Jungle Fever_. There is also mob movie featuring model Amber Smith and Andrew Garcia. I can’t remeber the name of the movie, which is on the tip of my tongue. I’m not sure. Anyway, I read in a Celebrity Skin magazine that some said the scene was real.

Damn… Cervaise’s link, I have to get a hold of that Aguilera sex tape…😉

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2002, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/33 "2002-10-03T16:35:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by herownself \*  
> \*\*[I rather doubt it](http://shopping.yahoo.com/shop?d=d&id=1800035227). \*\*

Sorry, this link was from me. The home computer was logged in as my wife.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2002, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/34 "2002-10-06T02:29:04Z")

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I’d love to know the answer, as this is something that I’ve wondered about quite often. I don’t know any particular gossip about any specific movies, though.

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**Author:** ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2002, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/35 "2002-10-06T02:56:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Nostradamus \*  
> \*\*Of all mainstream movies, the sex scene featuring Donald Sutherland and Julie Christie in _Don’t Look Now_ has arguably attracted the most prurient discussion.  
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I’ve only just come across this thread, and as I was reading I was thinking the exact same thing about _Don’t Look Now_. I’ve heard some guy on a TV documentry say that some believe they really did have sex. Anyone who has seen the movie would know what I mean - they really do look like they are lovemaking. It also happens to be a good film - very creepy.

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**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/36 "2002-10-09T10:50:27Z")

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_Don’t Look Now_ is on BBC1 at 12.05 am UK time tomorrow morning.

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/37 "2002-10-09T12:09:47Z")

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For the definition-impaired among us, actual penetration = actual sex. 😉

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> 1 : heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : COITUS  
> 2 : intercourse involving genital contact between individuals other than penetration of the vagina by the penis

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I saw an interview with Carre Otis regarding _Wild Orchid_ she says it was just good simulation, although her and Mickey Rourke were going hot and heavy at the time.

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/39 "2002-10-09T17:55:52Z")

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Username, could that Andy Garcia movie have been _Things To Do In Denver When You’re Dead_?

As for _Eyes Wide Shut_, I had heard (as I presume many others did, as well) that Harvey Keitel was originally cast in the movie, but was thrown off at the insistence of the primary stars when Keitel, standing behind Nicole in a scene, actually ejaculated onto her back and hair.

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**Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-actors-really-had-sex-on-camera-in-a-non-porn-hollywood-movie/130435/40 "2002-10-09T18:03:45Z")

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Username, could that Andy Garcia movie have been _Things To Do In Denver When You’re Dead_?

As for _Eyes Wide Shut_, I had heard (as I presume many others did, as well) that Harvey Keitel was originally cast in the movie, but was thrown off at the insistence of the primary stars when Keitel, standing behind Nicole in a scene, actually ejaculated onto her back and hair.

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